• @MrOtherGuy
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    83 months ago

    IIRC the old tab groups feature was eventually removed because telemetry showed that only very few people used it…

    • @[email protected]
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      533 months ago

      That’s because us power users know to turn the telemetry off and also have it blocked on our network.

      • @MrOtherGuy
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        213 months ago

        Right, but then you shouldn’t be shocked to find out that a feature was removed because nobody seemed to be using it.

        • @grue
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          63 months ago

          No, I expect Mozilla to know their market and use other means (like focus groups or surveys or something) to figure out which features are actually popular, instead of lazily using a bad metric.

          • Carighan Maconar
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            Mozilla knows their market. Because of said telemetry.

            How do you think that works? For any other app?

            Hint:

            (like focus groups or surveys or something)

            Not like this. Because they have both shown to be absolutely terrible for this general market preference research.

            • @grue
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              Did you miss the part of the conversation where folks were pointing out that lots of users turn the telemetry off?

              Your reply is as tone-deaf and non-responsive as sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling “nuh uh!” like a toddler.

              If you want to be persuasive you’ve got to prove that the telemetry is somehow useful in spite of many users turning it off, and you’ve done absolutely fuck-all to argue that.

              • Carighan Maconar
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                73 months ago

                You are committing the same mistake as you accuse me of:

                many users turning it off

                [citation needed] [how many?]

                For all you know, maybe the 15 very vocal users in here are the only ones who turn it off. Or do we know that many users do it? How many? 5%? 50%? 95%?

                • JackbyDev
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                  43 months ago

                  Many programs differente between “personalized ad” telemetry and “help us improve our program” telemetry. I generally leave the second on.

                • @grue
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                  That’s why Mozilla has to use other means to find out!

                  Thanks for proving my point for me.

    • Carighan Maconar
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      93 months ago

      Watching people use Chrome, fucking nobody uses it there either, except for work situations where on FF, you’re supposed to be using Multi-Account containers anyways.

    • NaN
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      43 months ago

      It didn’t help that they hid the button in the customize menu and made the feature not discoverable.

    • dantheclammanOP
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      13 months ago

      I used Panorama a lot. Was sad when it went away