• @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    -210 months ago

    I think having kids is an entirely selfish act and anyone who has them knowing they will likely be dead in 30 years because of our decisions is a terrible person

    • @TokenBoomerOP
      link
      610 months ago

      Some of us had them before we knew the extent of the damage. I’ve apologized repeatedly to my kids, and they are well aware of their future.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        2
        edit-2
        10 months ago

        Oh I wasn’t putting blame on you, you mentioned you wouldn’t do it with what you now know

        • @TokenBoomerOP
          link
          310 months ago

          I am to blame though. I should have been aware.

        • @TokenBoomerOP
          link
          110 months ago

          It is. But better than denying reality.

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            1
            edit-2
            10 months ago

            Well, it doesn’t look good, I absolutely agree. But still, you’re no fortune teller and world history is full of plot twists. Christianity went from a strange little hippie-cult to a world religion in no time, and noone saw that coming. Germany reuniting? Not in a 1000 years, said everyone a year before it actually happened. I’m too lazy to find more examples, because this is not my native language. You get my point: We don’t know! Let veganism conquer the world, maybe! Telling your children we’re doomed feels so desperate and grim. But there is always hope. I’m not doomed at this very moment, so let’s do something! Grow a tomato, hug your child, take a walk, punch a fascist, blow up a pipeline. :)

            • @TokenBoomerOP
              link
              1
              edit-2
              10 months ago

              The Club of Rome predicted the future back in 1972. We are currently in the “business as usual” track. Although we have made modest improvements to carbon emissions, that will not stop collapse. You cannot have infinite growth on a finite planet:

              Seafood May Be Gone by 2048, Study Says

              Our resources are running out. These charts show how urgently action is needed

              And the reason you don’t know about any of this, Why Media Ignores the Coming Disaster

              • @[email protected]
                link
                fedilink
                110 months ago

                I know all of this! I just refuse to lay down and give up like a rabbit in the headlights. We’re not hungry, not cold, not in survival-mode, yet. We’re still the lucky ones, so let’s live up to that. You can cry when our time has actually come.

                • @TokenBoomerOP
                  link
                  110 months ago

                  I’m not crying. I came to terms with collapse 5 years ago. I love my children, we have fun and discuss the world’s situations. But I don’t give them false hope. I’m preparing them to live in a sustainable community. “Doomer” is a made up word that only serves apathy. Fight for change to mitigate the damage.

                  • @[email protected]
                    link
                    fedilink
                    110 months ago

                    I wish you and your children the best and hope you’re wrong, that our path is not that determined yet.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      310 months ago

      Don’t worry, we’re banning abortion so you don’t have to be selfish to have kids.