Yes. And then, when you ask them 1 simple question they’re like “READ THE WIKI”
Dude/tte I don’t know anything about Linux. I’ve used the command line on my Mac 8~9 times and sometimes on windows and that’s it.
I really want to install Asahi (Arch) on my Mac as a VM before dual-booting but I’m failing for a week now and money‘s too tight atm to get even a cheap $50 laptop for testing.
I’ve used the command line on my Mac 8~9 times and sometimes on windows and that’s it.
Then Arch probably shouldn’t be your starting point. If you’re really insistent, then you also need to be patient. You need to learn a lot, and will definitely need to read. It’s like not knowing how to drive and wanting to drive an F1 car. There’s knowledge and experience you need to have before getting behind the wheel, but if you’re okay with crashing a lot then go for it.
Yeah and that’s exactly what grinds my gears about the Linux crowd here. On one hand they’re in every thread talking about how easy it is and how everyone should make the switch regardless of skill. That is until something goes wrong and the response is ‘lol educate yourself’
I would guess it’s booting to the installation media, be that a disc, thumb drive, or other mount point. If you can figure out how to get to a boot menu and have it skip that, it might get you in.
“Read the wiki” in response to questions is literally Arch’s explicit community ethos. They used to plainly tell you at the forums that it would be the first response to any question that could be answered by the wiki. (They still may, I don’t currently run Arch)
Almost literally any other distro is a better choice if diving into the wiki isn’t how you want to start things with Linux.
This conversation can only happen by me being the person OP is mocking, BTW.
I agree that you should read the wiki first, but the wiki is a reference, not an answer to all your problems, most wiki entries are solutions that came from people on forums asking questions.
Don’t even get me started on clowns who will tell you to rtfm, then when a solution does come out, nobody documents it, AT ALL. Nothing but a bunch of gatekeeping freeloaders.
Well, it’s unfortunate that you skipped the first part of my comment, (and also the advice about choosing literally almost any other distro to avoid that) but don’t let that dampen your oddly deep hostility.
Do what? I didn’t skip over anything, and how am I being hostile? I’m not only agreeing with you but even adding to your points, I didn’t even comment on choosing another distro, I even mentioned in another post that you shouldn’t even choose an engaging distro to start with!
I’m sorry I came off that way, that was not at all my intention. We are on the same side, please don’t think I was trying to attack you.
I would recommend experimenting with one of the less engaged distros before you just dive into something like that, it will save you a lot of headache.
Given how screwy computer tech gets sometimes you’d think there’d be more empathy for “I tried what’s in the damned wiki already I’m asking for help because it didn’t work!”
Shit sometimes it’s not even written wrong, you just slipped and put an O instead of a 0 and the text editor’s font doesn’t distinguish them enough for someone who isn’t specifically hunting for that to realize.
Still the funniest 8 hour long setup to a punchline I’ve had on mine and a lab partner’s heads though!
It’s not actually! I’m a semi-noob and manage to get it running like a charm on my M1 in like 30 minutes. It uses KDE so you can set it up to be like win or macos in a few clicks. I’m just waiting for a it to take full advantage of my powerfull GPU to make it my main os.
Using another person’s computer for three minutes to fiddle with start menu icons, with half the OS integration disabled, is very different from setting it up as your personal system with your own hardware.
That’s true. The reason why I suggested it is because the other person said they know nothing about Linux, have barely used a terminal before, and just wanted to try a certain distro. I thought this website would be a quick and easy way for them to play around a little bit to scratch that itch and see if they wanted to dive deeper into things.
Yes. And then, when you ask them 1 simple question they’re like “READ THE WIKI”
Dude/tte I don’t know anything about Linux. I’ve used the command line on my Mac 8~9 times and sometimes on windows and that’s it.
I really want to install Asahi (Arch) on my Mac as a VM before dual-booting but I’m failing for a week now and money‘s too tight atm to get even a cheap $50 laptop for testing.
I’m pretty sure Asahi is not meant to run inside a VM.
You could however install any distro that offers a Arm version, like Fedora for example
Then Arch probably shouldn’t be your starting point. If you’re really insistent, then you also need to be patient. You need to learn a lot, and will definitely need to read. It’s like not knowing how to drive and wanting to drive an F1 car. There’s knowledge and experience you need to have before getting behind the wheel, but if you’re okay with crashing a lot then go for it.
Where are you stuck on your install?
Yeah and that’s exactly what grinds my gears about the Linux crowd here. On one hand they’re in every thread talking about how easy it is and how everyone should make the switch regardless of skill. That is until something goes wrong and the response is ‘lol educate yourself’
Well if you want to start with the hard part yes educate yourself.
You could also try to accept Linux isn’t a viable option for most people.
Absurd take tbh everyone can use Linux mint at least
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Never said otherwise
After I installed everything and installed a desktop environment it reboots back to the installation screen
I would guess it’s booting to the installation media, be that a disc, thumb drive, or other mount point. If you can figure out how to get to a boot menu and have it skip that, it might get you in.
“Read the wiki” in response to questions is literally Arch’s explicit community ethos. They used to plainly tell you at the forums that it would be the first response to any question that could be answered by the wiki. (They still may, I don’t currently run Arch)
Almost literally any other distro is a better choice if diving into the wiki isn’t how you want to start things with Linux.
This conversation can only happen by me being the person OP is mocking, BTW.
dId YoU rEaD tHe WiKi? RtFm!!!
I agree that you should read the wiki first, but the wiki is a reference, not an answer to all your problems, most wiki entries are solutions that came from people on forums asking questions.
Don’t even get me started on clowns who will tell you to rtfm, then when a solution does come out, nobody documents it, AT ALL. Nothing but a bunch of gatekeeping freeloaders.
Well, it’s unfortunate that you skipped the first part of my comment, (and also the advice about choosing literally almost any other distro to avoid that) but don’t let that dampen your oddly deep hostility.
Do what? I didn’t skip over anything, and how am I being hostile? I’m not only agreeing with you but even adding to your points, I didn’t even comment on choosing another distro, I even mentioned in another post that you shouldn’t even choose an engaging distro to start with!
I’m sorry I came off that way, that was not at all my intention. We are on the same side, please don’t think I was trying to attack you.
Ah I apologize I must have misread your comment from start to finish! I will go back and reread it.
Sorry, a little too easy to go off half cocked in these conversations sometimes, I sincerely apologize.
Arch wiki is just that good. It does lack in some areas but it is that good.
I would recommend experimenting with one of the less engaged distros before you just dive into something like that, it will save you a lot of headache.
As a Linux user whose first distro was Arch, I heartily endorse this advice. Arch is a terrible place to start.
There’s a few techy communities like that
Given how screwy computer tech gets sometimes you’d think there’d be more empathy for “I tried what’s in the damned wiki already I’m asking for help because it didn’t work!”
Shit sometimes it’s not even written wrong, you just slipped and put an O instead of a 0 and the text editor’s font doesn’t distinguish them enough for someone who isn’t specifically hunting for that to realize.
Still the funniest 8 hour long setup to a punchline I’ve had on mine and a lab partner’s heads though!
Ahaha you should just wait ! Asahi is super hard to use apparently !
It’s not actually! I’m a semi-noob and manage to get it running like a charm on my M1 in like 30 minutes. It uses KDE so you can set it up to be like win or macos in a few clicks. I’m just waiting for a it to take full advantage of my powerfull GPU to make it my main os.
This may or may not help, but maybe give this a look.
https://distrosea.com/
Using another person’s computer for three minutes to fiddle with start menu icons, with half the OS integration disabled, is very different from setting it up as your personal system with your own hardware.
That’s true. The reason why I suggested it is because the other person said they know nothing about Linux, have barely used a terminal before, and just wanted to try a certain distro. I thought this website would be a quick and easy way for them to play around a little bit to scratch that itch and see if they wanted to dive deeper into things.