• @stanleytweedle
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    248 months ago

    Never understood why people are so eager to find and declare an ideological identity. You don’t have to join a club, you can think all the same things you think now without saying “I’m a whatever”. And if someone asks about a particular policy you can tell them what you think without attaching yourself to every other human that identifies as whatever you think makes a good ideological identity.

    • @Jackthelad
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      58 months ago

      It’s the modern way to have to put a label on everything. It’s tedious and it’s precisely why I hate identity politics.

      • @WaxedWookie
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        28 months ago

        It’s also a hell of a lot easier than explaining your political position from first principles. There’s a good, simple reason we have and use labels - they’re useful.

    • @[email protected]
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      38 months ago

      I think Andor and What We Do In The Shadows are both interesting because sometimes the internicine wars are more brutal and interesting than the disagreements in our popular consciousness. It’s really easy to hate someone so similar to you.

      Also the stakes are high when you are the minority and need each other to unite in order anything to get done. It really highlights the differences between ideology, whether they had been previously named or not.

      Look at all the people who left the Trump administration and no longer support him. Or how big the hatred for Clinton is in many progressive/left circles. Look at all the religious people who wanted abortion to be banned but now realize they actually disagreed with the fetal life philosophy all along and didn’t realize it.

      Yeah rebels VS empire is cool. Rebels VS rebels is actually way more interesting.

    • Ace T'Ken
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      28 months ago

      That’s called being a centrist or an independent. Lemmy hates those.

    • downpunxx
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      18 months ago

      imagine everyone voting for different individual candidates, no parties, no primaries, just one shot vote every couple years for, you know, whoever tickles your fancy at 8:00 on a tuesday morning, do you know how much of a fucking mess that would be, or everyone voting for different policies, no parties, no primaries, just one shot vote every couple years, for just about anything, want to outlaw mondays, sure why not pencil that fucker in, and vote on it. there’s a reason that people coalesce into political parties with identifying characteristics, it’s so anything gets done at all, most of the time by people who can actually do them

      • @stanleytweedle
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        28 months ago

        want to outlaw mondays, sure why not pencil that fucker in, and vote on it.

        You have some weird misunderstandings about how political parties work. And you apparently don’t know the difference between a party and an ideological identity… but I like your energy.

        • downpunxx
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          18 months ago

          in order to have a “party” you must share a core “ideological identity”, i mean it’s right there in the name, man