OnStar reports location and speed data to the car manufacturer. Sometimes they will sell this data to insurance companies to raise your premium, as several news stores pointed out a few weeks ago. I couldn’t really find an advantage to OnStar, (I have my phone to call emergency services) so I disabled it by pulling it’s fuse.

For my 2019 bolt, it’s f31 in the instrument panel fuse box, just down and to the left of the steering wheel. The fuse box cover comes off when you pull it hard from the bottom.

I was able to find which fuse went to OnStar in the owners manual and labeled on the inside of the fuse box cover. You should be able to find it for your model car there too if it uses OnStar.

I did have the casualty of my speaker for calls and texts. I’m not able to use it right now. I’ll see if I can dig in and reconnect it somehow, but we’ll see.

Who knows that other into they’re snitching back to GM, or what they could do in the future, so I recommend disconnecting it. Good luck!

  • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod
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    This post makes me really glad I didn’t buy a Chevy Bolt the last time I bought a car. I thought the whole subcompact electric thing was cool, but this is kind of insane.

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      It’s not just electric, and it’s not just subcompacts. It’s pretty much every car with a cellular capability (onstar and competitors), whether you have service enabled or not.

      Check for your make here: https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/categories/cars/

      Nissan even has in their privacy policy that they can collect your “sexual activity, health diagnosis data, and genetic information” and will sell to advertisers “Inferences drawn from any Personal Data collected to create a profile about a consumer reflecting the consumer’s preferences, characteristics, psychological trends, predispositions, behavior, attitudes, intelligence, abilities, and aptitudes”. Not so realistic until you sync your phone and text message history to the car.

      • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod
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        Thanks! I checked and both my cars are too old to be a problem, and I don’t see myself buying a car made after 2019… ever.

        • @subtext
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          Closing your eyes and plugging your ears and ignoring the problem won’t make it go away, it’ll allow it to grow unfettered until 2050 when your 40 year old beater finally gives out and you have to buy a newer car.

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            Ah, okay, let me just nip on down to the GM R&D facility and ask them nicely to remove these features.

            Seriously, what do you expect me to do other than not buy what they’re selling? And if every car is like this, do I just never buy a car?

            • @subtext
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              You can promote and share articles such as the Mozilla research that this outrage came from to raise awareness and a coalition of like-minded, privacy-focused individuals.

              You can donate to non profits that are dedicated to bringing these privacy invasions to light and fighting them such as the EFF or the Mozilla Foundation.

              You can write to your Senators or your Representative to let them know you’re unhappy with how these companies are treating your legislators’ constituents.

              I have done all of the three above and I can at least say that I’m doing my part even if I’m not going to the GM R&D facility.

      • @mirisgaiss
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        this makes me so happy to have a 2005 truck with physical dials and a CD player and no fucking touch screen shit. every time I rent a car somewhere I despise the experience.

          • @Voyajer
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            It is if you don’t enjoy getting scalped

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              I bought a 2005 vehicle with 140k miles on it and with prices fucking thru the roof, plus all this privacy violating shit coming out i am fuckin chuffed.

              • @Voyajer
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                New as in new-to-me. Actual new from the dealer cars have such a bad value proposition that they’re not worth considering if you have the bare minimum capability to do maintenance yourself, and that is before the new fad of dealer markup nonsense that’s been happening.

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                  New to you is nice and all, but it’s not actually new. Sorry to break it to you.

                  E. Lol you can downvote me all you’d like. It doesn’t change reality.

                  • @Voyajer
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                    What? Buddy I haven’t downvoted you at all.

              • @Voyajer
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                Why would I be selling my car? An equivalent car would be over 70k for the same horsepower and mileage when mines running great.

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                  I’m sorry, I forgot you don’t sell cars. Obviously no one else does either because you don’t.

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                  This might be a shock to you, but they’ve made cars in 2023. They even make them in 2024. They’re considered this strange thing called “new”

      • YⓄ乙
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        I bought a Suzuki swift and I dont think it tracks

    • Kbin_space_program
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      I test drove a Bolt before Covid. I found it extremely lacking, even compared to the Nissan Leaf.

      • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod
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        I think it’ll take some kind of economic incident like the Oil Crisis to get car companies to make nice, small, electric cars. All they seem to want to make now are SUVs, CUVs, and trucks.

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        I’ve really liked it. Has enough range for me, and android auto takes care of everything that isn’t driving.

        • Bilb!
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          I got a 2023 Bolt EUV a few months ago and I love it. (I wanted the EV but I couldn’t find any.)

          I’m curious if disabling the OnStar stuff is as “simple” as it is in the 2019 models.