The president has been going after his presumptive 2024 opponent with a little more venom than usual

Joe Biden is taking it to Donald Trump.

The president’s campaign responded to Trump’s wild press conference in New York on Monday by slamming the former president as “weak and desperate — both as a man and a candidate for President.”

“He spent the weekend golfing, the morning comparing himself to Jesus, and the afternoon lying about having money he definitely doesn’t have,” the statement read, adding that “America deserves better than a feeble, confused, and tired Donald Trump.”

  • @[email protected]
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    -1348 months ago

    It’s not both-sides to say that Genocide Joe sucks ass. Yes, Trump is worse. But Biden is still awful. I don’t say that in some effort to appease the right or sound somehow neutral, I say it because it’s true.

    • @IonAddis
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      958 months ago

      Nah, you say it to sap unity and make people stay home from voting.

      Your vibe is the same as the girls who say they bluntly “tell it as they see it” in their dating profile, but anyone with any relationship experience knows that means they’re completely willing to make things toxic as fuck because they’ll just vomit their selfish so called truth anywhere without caring about consequences or how it destroys, because it serves some sort of other motivation for them.

      Using words to encourage people to embrace hopelessness and not vote is a propaganda technique to put Trump back in the Whitehouse, and him being there weakens the nation so immensely and catastrophically that it’s extremely attractive to cash and weapons poor enemies to plop someone in front of a cheap computer to spread propaganda to attempt to destroy a nation from within. People who can’t fight the US with military might will use words instead.

      In short, your words are not neutral. You’re either what is called a useful idiot, an ordinary person who swallowed outside propaganda whole and does the work of other interests here, or you’re a knowing perpetrator.

      I hope people here use whatever skills they picked up in English class however many years ago to think about not just the exact words of the poster I’m responding to, but why they posted this thing at this moment, their motivations beyond what they claim they are, and the effects of an appeal to truth on a reader and how that can influence perception even when the thing said isn’t actually necessarily true or contains such a small flake of some truth that it is effectively turns into a lie when put beside the bigger and more vast and complicated truths.

      • @[email protected]
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        -458 months ago

        People shouldn’t stay home on election day just because Biden is a terrible piece of shit. People should go at the very least to vote down ballot, if not to vote against Trump. Nor should people feel hopeless. There are so many avenues to pursue outside of simple electoral politics (again, do vote). But I’m not going to cave to this loyalty test bullshit. Also the money is good, praise Mother Russia.

        In short, your words are not neutral.

        Yes. That is literally what I said.

        Look, I agree that “telling it like it is” can be a toxic trait (although as long as we’re discussing the subtext, it’s interesting that you used the example of “girls”. I’m sure you didn’t mean to, I’m not leveling accusations at you, we all do this to some degree or another, but that is definitely an appeal to misogyny. You could have compared me to Bill Maher, which frankly would have pissed me off a whole lot more). But the truth does matter, and appeals to nuance/arguing procedural or rhetorical points while ignoring the realities is also toxic. Children in Gaza are dying, and Biden has actively helped with that. Call it propaganda, call it whatever you want, but innocent people are dead, as a result of a genocidal campaign helped by Biden.

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          188 months ago

          Those stats go back 35 years. He’s maybe the only person that’s been in office that long, of course he’s going to accumulate the most.

          • @WraithGear
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            -128 months ago

            That’s not really a knock against his statement. That he has gotten a lot from Israel for a long time, and so may feel beholden to them.

            I am also getting absolute sick of all of the people who are jumping down the throats of people who express weariness at Joe Biden being the democratic nominee. Like ffs, he is in no way representing my interests and is another step tword the right. It may be slower then the full on sprint of the Republican Party, but my ONLY input into this process is my vote. In the primaries i sure as shit did not vote for joe, and anyone refusing to vote because of the bull shit he’s pulled is justified.

            Instead of blaming the disenfranchised you and the Democrats should find a better politician and better politics

          • @Nudding
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            -258 months ago

            LOL. Straight up apologism, nice.

              • @Nudding
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                -198 months ago

                Support colonial genocide more, I’m sure it will age like fine wine!

                • @Dkarma
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                  108 months ago

                  What’s our other choice? More genocide and Ukraine falling as well.

                  • @Nudding
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                    -148 months ago

                    You don’t get a choice. I’m sorry if that was unclear.

                  • @Nudding
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                    -138 months ago

                    Anyone not actively against it, is complicit, unfortunately.

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                  98 months ago

                  This just in, disapproving of others distorting facts means you support a genocide.

                  You guys will really shoehorn that in anywhere, huh?

                  • @Nudding
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                    -178 months ago

                    Genocide Joe thanks you for your support, Corn Pop.

        • @[email protected]
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          188 months ago

          gEnOciDe jOe!

          Sounds a lot like something Trump would say, doesn’t it? I wonder where it came from?

          • @Nudding
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            -188 months ago

            It came from him aiding a genocide.

            • @Thrillhouse
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              LOL Trump is telling Israel to hurry up (aka genocide harder). The nickname isn’t really appropriate for Biden given the global context.

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                I was about to say - Biden is at least saying “you need to fucking chill”, Trump literally just said he’d be calling for Israel to “finish the job”.

                That being said, am I tired of having to make this sort of shitty-ass choice every four years? Yes. However, ESPECIALLY this election cycle, we don’t have anyone better on the ticket.

                RFK? He’s basically a mouthpiece for the conspiracy-right, just not quite as loud as Trump. He’s got some decent ideas buried deep under the midden-heap that is his anti-vaccine rambling, but anyone who says that Texas’ whole “we’re gonna fucking kill every immigrant who steps foot on our soil” idea was justified the way he has doesn’t deserve the office, as well as his want to take the US back to what is effectively isolationism.

                Stein is way too comfortable with anti-science positions, almost total opposition to war and military aid, and her opposition to nuclear power is maddening paired with her statements about how every nuclear plant is a bomb waiting to explode.

              • @Nudding
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                -68 months ago

                Well it is appropriate, because Biden is enthusiastically aiding a genocide, right this second

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      8 months ago

      “no matter who wins, America loses”

      That sounds like both-sides to me. Biden has done some objectively great things for Americans even with a senate fighting him for the first 2 years and a Congress for the last 2

      • @RaoulDook
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        118 months ago

        I can definitely point to more good things Biden has done in his term than Trump did in his. Plus there’s the mountain of Trump’s crimes to compare with the non-mountain of non-crimes on Biden’s side. Of course, I’m not a fan of Biden’s authoritarian tendencies, but again Trump is far worse in that area.

    • @[email protected]
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      348 months ago

      Ah yes, someone who enables genocide by continuing existing funding practices is totally deserving of that specific nickname while the other guy who has repeatedly said he would literally do what Israel is doing and that Israel should ‘finish the job’ doesn’t get a pithy nickname.

      • @[email protected]
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        228 months ago

        The cosplayers will always write “Genocide Joe” and will always fail to note that Donald is intentionally referencing the “Final Solution” from the Nazis.

      • Th4tGuyII
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        I don’t know what you’re on about… They’re obviously and completely unbiased, and anyone who says otherwise will also get a pithy nickname

        /s for anyone who needed it

    • @KillerTofu
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      238 months ago

      Ah so you stoop to name calling to give your argument credence.