• @woelkchen
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    98 months ago

    if Apple’s model is not legal, then neither is Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo…

    Except it’s not about the model itself, it’s about market power. Neither game console maker has a monopoly, not even Nintendo.

    • @fuckwit_mcbumcrumble
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      38 months ago

      Are there any other virtual stores on the console? There’s obviously physical store fronts, but I’m pretty sure there’s only the one digitally on console.

      • @woelkchen
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        38 months ago

        Are there any other virtual stores on the console?

        No but since none of the console vendors have a monopoly, antitrust laws don’t apply. They can do practically any shit as long as none have a dominant market position.

        • @fuckwit_mcbumcrumble
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          58 months ago

          Apple doesn’t have a monopoly though, there’s still Android. And outside of the US Android is more popular than iOS.

          • @woelkchen
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            08 months ago

            Apple doesn’t have a monopoly though, there’s still Android.

            Based on revenue, it has, though. iPhones are being bought by people who spend more money in app stores than the average Android user.

        • @IamAnonymous
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          28 months ago

          So Nintendo can force everyone to buy a Switch to play Mario games? From what I see, consoles are locked in as well and we are forced to have PS/Xbox/Switch for their exclusive games. And this is legal because they aren’t as big as Apple? Why can’t I buy one console to play any game I want just like I can install any OS on Android?

          • @woelkchen
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            18 months ago

            And this is legal because they aren’t as big as Apple?

            Apple can do whatever they want on iPads, Mac, and Vision Pro. At least WRT Gatekeeper status in the EU, only iPhone is covered.

            • @IamAnonymous
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              18 months ago

              Did not know that. So it’s just the sales numbers then because iPad is the same as an iPhone in terms of functionality and restrictions. Mac is more open compared to their mobile devices.

              • @woelkchen
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                18 months ago

                So it’s just the sales numbers then because iPad is the same as an iPhone in terms of functionality and restrictions.

                Sales numbers and more specifically market power of the Apple App Store on iPhones. In absolute numbers there are more Android devices out there but that includes super low-end devices where the owners don’t spend as much money on apps.

                Apparently tablets aren’t being seen as big of a factor in the overall market, at least according to the EU. The special exceptionfs announced recently by Apple for the EU also for the most part are only about iPhone.

                “The changes do not apply outside of the EU, nor do they apply to iPadOS in any country.” –https://www.macrumors.com/2024/03/06/alternative-ios-app-stores-eu-grace-period/

    • @[email protected]
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      8 months ago

      I agree that it is about market power, but one could make the argument that Xbox/PlayStation have a duopoly similar to iOS/Android.

      Although I think PlayStation dominated with roughly a 70/30 split worldwide (higher in Europe). Nintendo is somewhat in its own category imo, since they mostly do their own games and don’t directly compete in that sense.

      But I guess in a way consoles also compete with PCs.

    • Lexi Sneptaur
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      18 months ago

      Microsoft is edging closer to a monopoly, which may be why they’re making this move.

      • @woelkchen
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        18 months ago

        Microsoft is edging closer to a monopoly

        Windows is a monopoly, Xbox is not.