They look good — but not necessarily “playable” yet?
  • @phoneymouseEnglish
    -73•9 months ago

    World follows Apple’s lead again, but go ahead Lemmy, complain some more about how Apple is the reason your life is miserable.

    • @PloppEnglish
      49•9 months ago

      What a weird thing to say out of nowhere.

      • @phoneymouseEnglish
        -16•9 months ago

        Lemmy bitches nonstop about Apple out of nowhere. Then, they’ll be excited about something like this and pretend it wasn’t Apple that is the reason this is happening.

    • Dark ArcEnglish
      41•9 months ago

      Apple didn’t invent the ARM laptop

      • @phoneymouseEnglish
        -41•9 months ago

        No one was interested in an ARM laptop until Apple launched M1.

        Edit: downvotes don’t make you right.

        • Dark ArcEnglish
          32•9 months ago

          I had a buddy who was a Linux ARM laptop fanatic back in like 2014. Microsoft had been trying to make Windows on ARM a thing for years before that.

          Apple was the first to popularize it but it’s been a work in progress if you’ve been paying attention for a LOT longer. What helped Apple is all the work they did on their own ARM chips for iOS. They managed to get pretty close to x86 performance in an ARM chip. They also had an app store of apps that could run on them and an emulator for things that wouldn’t.

          Every time Microsoft tried nobody would release ARM builds… People just bought the x86 laptops. It’s the same chicken and egg problem desktop Linux has had for years.

          • @phoneymouseEnglish
            -14•9 months ago

            …so, you admit it then. I don’t see where we disagree.

            What helped Apple is all the work they did on their own ARM chips for iOS. They managed to get pretty close to x86 performance in an ARM chip.

            Apple was the first to popularize it…

            Now that Apple has done it, the PC world wants to do it for real this time.

            • @[email protected]English
              14•9 months ago

              Look, the difference is in the language. One company hasn’t “done it”, the industry as a whole moves, sometimes cooperatively other times in a tug of war.

              As the commenter above mentioned, Apple was in a unique position of being able to leverage all the work done in the phone and tablet spaces to push for an ARM laptop. This helped other manufacturers which already showed an interest in doing the same.

              On the other hand, with the lock in mechanisms apple has in their products they also stifles competition and innovation in other areas.

              They can both help push and hinder innovation. Just like any company. It’s not about hating or loving a corporate entity.

      • @phoneymouseEnglish
        -9•9 months ago

        Oh, you’re right the M1 chip is not real. It’s just a figment of marketing. 😂

    • @[email protected]English
      10•9 months ago

      It’s just Windows holding back the industry again. X86 could be long gone if MacOS and Linux would be most popular.

      • @anlumoEnglish
        5•9 months ago

        Windows runs on ARM just fine, it’s the legacy apps that are holding the industry back. Just like some institutions are still running AS/400 machines because nobody can port the programs they’re using.

        • @vanderbiltEnglish
          5•9 months ago

          I blame MS because they have repeatedly failed to light a big enough fire under app devs to get them to migrate to modern APIs and write more arch agnostic code, nor have they provided the tooling to get it done. Why isn’t the default on every MS compiler for Windows to produce fat binaries for x86 and ARM? That alone would help adoption greatly.

    • @[email protected]English
      2•9 months ago

      i see the downvote but you got to admit companies tend to follow whatever apple decides to do. Remember how we used to have headphone jack before apple removed it ? remember the numerous android phone with a big notch (pixel was the winner here) after iphone switched to faceid ? Remember the focus on privacy from google after apple made it’s pop up about not being tracked between apps ? I probably forgot others, but whatever succesfull (or not) apple does, other companies follow. always has been.

      M1 arm macbook have been a quite a hit for apple, very successfull. Guess what, it probably pushed competition to make their own, but they couldn’t because who the hell can make their own processor and then force almost the entire developper on their operating system to write software for it ? Even if we get arm windows laptop, good luck getting most of your software to run on arm. You’d be lucky to even get big ones like photoshop. everything will be run through translation layer, will sucks performance and battery.