Not wrong. A handful of my classmates (me included) taught ourselves to lockpick. Not out of any malice, but just due to wanting to learn a skill. Lockpicking is not hard, as long as a person is willing to learn. And that’s completely ignoring the fact that basically everyone knows how to shiv a lock open with a card
They are currently underpaid, that’s merely a fact, and I agree that they should be paid more.
Of course a shooter wouldn’t make it as far with more opposition. The question is how many more shootings are going to happen if they can get guns right at their shool?
Well that’s a tactical issue. You don’t think there’s any way teachers can secure their guns but be able to readily access them when necessary? That’s kind of the whole point of the security field.
I’ll grant you that locks are generally shit. Anything with a key hole is very easily picked.
You can get guns anywhere. It’s not like we’re stopping that to begin with.
The question here is not the tactics that you can draw on whiteboard. Remember how well tactics worked in Uvalde.
Teachers put guns down or lose them. Or kids get in fights with teachers. What then? Or the shooter targets the teacher first and pockets the extra weapon.
Your final point is misleading. Most schools don’t contain guns most of the time, unless it’s the school pig carrying. If 10 teachers start carrying, you’ve just added 10x more weapons.
That’s an extremely unacceptable mistake. We can’t have senile people teaching and protecting our kids. Would you want Trump or Biden as a history teacher?
Eye for an eye allegory is about revenge. You think someone is gonna avenge the school shooter? Get fucked. Kill the thing actively putting bullets in kids. It’s simple.
Ban gun ownership and suddenly only the leeches have guns. Go figure.
Yes, give the overworked and underpaid people guns. There is no way a potential gunmen could now also get his gun on premise.
I’m also amazed if they actually believe any sign would stop that. These people mostly plan on killing themselves anyways.
Seriously, does everyone forget what it’s like to be 12 when the teacher leaves the room?
The teachers desk gets raided. And we were happy enough to just find the stapler.
Leave it just one single chance for one single teacher to leave their gun in their desk or unattended.
Based on the safes that Lockpickinglawyer has reviewed, it could be locked away and still take no time at all for a kid to fumble the lock open
Not wrong. A handful of my classmates (me included) taught ourselves to lockpick. Not out of any malice, but just due to wanting to learn a skill. Lockpicking is not hard, as long as a person is willing to learn. And that’s completely ignoring the fact that basically everyone knows how to shiv a lock open with a card
You just gonna sit there and act like they gotta be underpaid so your allegory fits? Fuckin pay them more.
How far do you think a shooter is gonna make it through a school with opposition vs no opposition?
You missed like all points.
They are currently underpaid, that’s merely a fact, and I agree that they should be paid more.
Of course a shooter wouldn’t make it as far with more opposition. The question is how many more shootings are going to happen if they can get guns right at their shool?
Well that’s a tactical issue. You don’t think there’s any way teachers can secure their guns but be able to readily access them when necessary? That’s kind of the whole point of the security field.
I’ll grant you that locks are generally shit. Anything with a key hole is very easily picked.
You can get guns anywhere. It’s not like we’re stopping that to begin with.
The question here is not the tactics that you can draw on whiteboard. Remember how well tactics worked in Uvalde.
Teachers put guns down or lose them. Or kids get in fights with teachers. What then? Or the shooter targets the teacher first and pockets the extra weapon.
Your final point is misleading. Most schools don’t contain guns most of the time, unless it’s the school pig carrying. If 10 teachers start carrying, you’ve just added 10x more weapons.
Secure them obviously. If your teacher is dumb enough to leave a gun out, should they even be teaching?
They are teachers not armourers and even armourers make mistakes.
That’s an extremely unacceptable mistake. We can’t have senile people teaching and protecting our kids. Would you want Trump or Biden as a history teacher?
Mistakes happen without being senile.
Yes pay them more, but not so they can be armed. Do it because it’s a vital societal function to do a good job to educate our young.
Why not both?
Because guns have only one purpose: to kill. This means they have no place in schools.
If you can’t kill the killer, more will be killed. Don’t over simplify.
First off, your logic is actually braindead. An eye for an eye my friend.
Here’s something for you to consider: ban gun ownership outright, and there will be no more school shootings.
Eye for an eye allegory is about revenge. You think someone is gonna avenge the school shooter? Get fucked. Kill the thing actively putting bullets in kids. It’s simple.
Ban gun ownership and suddenly only the leeches have guns. Go figure.
Sorry to have to break it to you, but gun manufacturers have lied to you. You’ve been swindled, Mango.
The solution to gun violence is not more guns.
That “thing actively putting bullets in kids”? It’s the guns, not the people firing them. I hope you can accept this simple truth someday.