• @Nudding
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    19 months ago

    And where is this “non-capitalist” state?

    • @saltesc
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      29 months ago

      Hang on, I think I read this somewhere… Oh yeah! The post!

      • @Nudding
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        -39 months ago

        China sounds pretty capitalist to me.

        • @saltesc
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          09 months ago

          Really?

          A 75-year old Marxist-Leninist republic led by the Chinese Communist Party founded by Mao motherfucking Zedong sounds capitalist to you?

          Pol Pot would blush.

          • @Nudding
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            -29 months ago

            You think the Nazis were socialists too?

            • @saltesc
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              19 months ago

              Random unrelated question, but okay…

              As everyone knows, the Nazi party was ultra nationalist. However, like every other country involved in the war, it had socialist values.

              Hitler preached class warfare, agitating the working class to resist “exploitation” by capitalists , particularly Jewish capitalists, of course. Their programs called for the nationalization of education, health care, transportation, and other major industries. They instituted and vigorously enforced a strict gun control regimen. They encouraged pornography, illegitimacy, and abortion, and they denounced Christians as right-wing fanatics.

              And to quote Hitler himself on the matter…

              “We are socialists. We are the enemies of today’s capitalist system of exploitation … and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”

              Though, I think it goes without saying that was all in effort of totalitarianism.

              Despite being anti-Marxist and fighting the uprising of communism as well, an ultra nationalist party is going to have socialist values. A big part of nationalism is that your “legitimate” nationals benefit first and foremost without the exploitation of outsider nations, their companies, and their people—hence all the racism and anti-Semitism.

              I think maybe you have your own idea of what socialism is and can’t fathom how it can exist in capitalist, communist, and nationalist environments. Pretty much every country involved in WW2 relied on socialism to have their nations survive, whilst their political motives were entirely contrasted.

              But this is entirely unrelated to what we were talking about. Maybe you know ‘Socialist’ was in the Nazi Party name, but because you don’t know why, you thought it’d be a “Got 'em!” moment. Who knows what that brain’s thinking at this point.

              • @Nudding
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                -19 months ago

                Yeah I was clearly making fun of you for thinking the ccp wasn’t capitalist. Thanks for really hammering my point home by actually believing that the Nazis were socialist lol.

                • @saltesc
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                  19 months ago

                  Ah, I see. Workers rights, social welfare, universal healthcare and education systems, disestablishment of capitalist exploitation on citizens, gun control, and women’s freedoms isn’t socialist. Got it 👍

                  Thanks for sharing your big brain wisdom with me. Now go tell everyone of this pinicale perspective of yours. The world must know!

                  • @Nudding
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                    09 months ago

                    I would say murdering all the socialists was the biggest speed bump but what do I know?