• FuglyDuck
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    3 months ago

    There’s a small problem with your assertion

    I can find no news articles saying that Hamas attacked an aid convoy, or refugee camp. Or (intentionally) bombed a hospital.

    Not even Israeli propagandists are claiming that. Probably, because they’re too busy trying to excuse the IDF bombing UNRWA stations, attacking aid convoys and bombing the absolute fuck out of everything in Gaza.

    So while you’re screaming BoThSiDeS, ask yourself who’s the one screaming propaganda? Yes, Hamas are terrorists, and yes they’ve killed civilians.

    That does not justify a genocidal campaign to wipe out Palestinians, the vast majority of whom were not and are not Hamas. Based on what I have seen, all I can say is, in terms of a direct military threat to the port; the IDF features much, much more strongly than Hamas or Houthis.

    Sure, there’s a risk of stampedes and riots. Desperate people do desparate things. But an article ignoring the one side that is intentionally attacking relief and aid infrastructure, camps and convoys… is itself propaganda.

    • @AA5B
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      13 months ago

      I can find no news articles saying that Hamas attacked an aid convoy, or refugee camp. Or (intentionally) bombed a hospital.

      Attacked a foreign country to provoke a war, smuggle arms in aid convoys, and intentionally hide behind civilians, including in hospitals.

      I’ll agree there’s an ongoing atrocity that we need to help stop, but it’s just foolish to claim that Biden controls the Israeli government or that the Israeli army is doing this “because evil”. Yea Hamas started it, yes Hamas is the reason the fight is in the middle of civilians, yes both sides are horrible, and yes this needs to stop

    • @HappycamperNZ
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      ICJ report S64. Wish to state that same report argues against genocide in sections 22, 23, 24, including Israeli responses to SA prior to the report being ignored, along with that I am deliberately listing sections that support my arguement (because against what most think it is still a discussion).

      I will also concede that I thought that report was also where I read about aid convoys being stolen, I will need to find that report as I was incorrect.

      Saying that, i don’t think Israel would be stupid enough to engage civilians in clear view of American sailors, or attack a warship - don’t fuck with America’s boats.

      • FuglyDuck
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        33 months ago

        Saying that, i don’t think Israel would be stupid enough to engage civilians in clear view of American sailors, or attack a warship - don’t fuck with America’s boats.

        they’ve done it before and gotten away with it. Regardless, … FAFO applies to any militants involved- IDF, Hamas. Houthis. the IDF is only the most likely to fuck around as they have the most to lose. (Like, you know. failing in it’s genocide.)

        as for the ICJ, as far as I’m aware, they’re still investigating, and have really only issued directives like “Don’t be an asshole now.” Directives which Israel generally ignores. for example, the march 28 findings directing, you know, not halt or obstruct aid convoys. which they’re blatantly ignoring.