WASHINGTON, D.C. – After narrowly backing Israel’s military action in Gaza in November, Americans now oppose the campaign by a solid margin. Fifty-five percent currently disapprove of Israel’s actions, while 36% approve.

  • @frostmore
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    we have an consensus,those who are responsible for the war crime needs to be tried and palestinians have a right to exist as israel.

    what i can see however,hamas is still hell bent on genocide and have publicity announced they will repeat the Oct 7th attacks until israel is no more,a stark contrast to their revised charter.

    you can defend hamas all you want,you can claim they want peace but what their actions says,is a lot louder than what their charter does.

    • @Keeponstalin
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      Israel is an Apartheid State. Palestinians have lived under the military control of Israel for generations, enforced with daily violence both direct and indirect. For People living under apartheid, liberation is the end of that apartheid state. That means coexistence, you’re the one thinking that means genocide.

      What does liberation look like to Hamas?

      For Hamas, and for the Palestinians, it can be either a two-state solution or a one-state solution. If you ask this question to a Hamas leader, he would say, “I don’t have the answer, because I’m not the one who decides. I’m not going to talk about what the Palestinians will want in the future. We’re just dealing with the national liberation struggle at the moment.”

      So there’s not necessarily a clearly defined goal. It’s about getting to a better position day by day.

      Of course. You know why? Because on the Israeli side, there is no clear position. Sometimes they talk about achieving an agreement, but they don’t know what this agreement would look like. Most of the time they say that they don’t want the Palestinians to have a state. There is no clear vision.

      • @frostmore
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        -17 months ago

        don’t white wash hamas atrocities as if they are justified or faultless.

        hamas is just as guilty as the hardline israelis,none of them are the heroes they themselves believed to be.you certainly aren’t changing my mind concerning the terrorists that is hamas,no matter how hard you try to paint hamas as the anti-hero.

        hamas should be wiped out,the sooner the better so that palestinians can move forward,else this apartheid will never end.

        • @Keeponstalin
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          Hamas’ atrocities against civilians are not justified, dude. If you’re against that you should recognize Israel has attacked magnitudes more civilians both before and certainly after Oct 7th, especially women and children.

          Understanding the context as to why these attacks happened is not a justification, it’s necessary to understand and recognize the underlying reasons in order to determine an avenue for peace and end the hostilities.

          You’re the one justifying Israel’s genocide with that last sentence. Wiping out Hamas has been their justification for targeting and destroying Hospitals, Schools, Refugee Camps, and Aid deliveries. That’s the justification for cutting of all water/electricity/medical supplies on top of an unending bombing campaign that target civilians and civilian infrastructure. Everyone in Gaza is facing Catastrophic risk of Famine, a man-made famine by Israel blocking aid, food, and water, dozens have already died and many more soon will without help.

          Hamas has committed war crimes, documented by Human Rights Organizations. That doesn’t change the fact that Israel is responsible for the Settler Colonialism, Ethnic Cleansing, and Apartheid that is the foundation for all this violence. Israel holds all the power to end the conflict, but has instead only increased hostilities with Apartheid State Violence and Settler Violence.

          • @frostmore
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            -17 months ago

            you are right that israel can end hostilities right now if they want to,the same goes to hamas.

            the onus here seems to be placed on Israel since they are the ones with superior firepower,as if hamas couldn’t end the hostilities by surrendering.

            Bear in mind,hamas has always resorted to terrorist attacks whenever they felt like it,had israel agreed to stop all the aggressions,it will just give hamas breathing space to reorganize and begin another round of Oct 7th terror attack.

            hamas handed israel the reason for all these violence on a silver platter and israel is not going let it go that easily.if you want me to condemn israel and hold them accountable, i for one agree with you…AFTER hamas is wiped out.

            it’s not genocide to want hamas wiped out,unless you are conflating hamas as palestinians.

            • @Keeponstalin
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              07 months ago

              No, Hamas can’t end the apartheid and occupation by surrendering. You fundamentally misunderstand the development and continuation of the occupation. You’re also making things up about why Hamas decided to attack instead of learning the actual reasons.

              I’ve already given links to learn about the escalation of violence in my first response. Seems like you’d rather believe what you want to.

              • @frostmore
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                -17 months ago

                it would be naive to think hamas can end apartheid alone but hamas can stop giving israel any form of justification by surrendering,we can start there.

                your links this far has been an attempt to justify hamas,obfuscate hamas with palestinians and painting hamas as a victim of circumstance. most articles provided has been down playing hamas terrorism and somehow israel is fully responsible for the plight in gaza and west bank today,never mind the fact that hamas played a central role in it as well.

                you seem to think Israel should observe the laws and regulations imposed by the international community but you forget a terrorist group like hamas actually spit on those laws and regulations,acting with impunity because they have god on their side.

                lest you forget,in israel,people accused of war crimes can be charged under the laws of israel,hamas on the other hand have no such laws.

                believe what you want of hamas,i for 1 support the full eradication of terrorists,they do not deserve any reprieve.