Does having an AirBNB setup make someone deserving of the guillotine or does that only apply to owners of multiple houses? What about apartments?

Please explain your reasoning as well.

  • @Pilferjinx
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    159 months ago

    We really need to make investing in property less lucrative than other means.

    • Jojo
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      99 months ago

      I mean we could start taxing capital gains as income, except no we can’t because that would never happen.

      • @RememberTheApollo_
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        39 months ago

        Capital gains shows up when you sell. Rental income is taxed as income. Anyone who sells a home, primary residence included, will pay capital gains on any increase in value (deprecation aside) depending on how long they’ve owned the property.

        If you just go after capital gains as income, you’re also going after people’s savings and retirement accounts. Not good.

        So yeah, people pay taxes on income from and selling a rental.

        You’re not going to get what you want by going this direction, and it’s not a good idea.

        You need to prevent corporate ownership of and squatting on residential properties. These giant corps create artificial scarcity and fix rent prices, and because they’re corporations, can avoid much of the taxation you and I see. That’s the real issue. Not some guy who owns a couple houses and rents one out.

        • @[email protected]
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          49 months ago

          If you just go after capital gains as income, you’re also going after people’s savings and retirement accounts. Not good.

          Unless you just make the tax progressive, like any sane system. It can start at 0 for the average retirement savings amount of capital gains and just go up once you start reaching crazy amounts of wealth

          • Jojo
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            29 months ago

            If only there was a single chance in hell of making it happen, yeah.

          • @Professorozone
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            19 months ago

            Capital gains IS progressive. Short term capital gains are taxed as ordinary income. Long term capital gains are taxed according to income bracket and range from 0% to 20%. This year to qualify for the 0% tax bracket a single person would have to make less than approximately $47k. Hardly rich.

        • Jojo
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          19 months ago

          I would be interested to see data on how much capital gains tax is paid by people in whichever (income) tax bracket, or how people’s proportion of income tax vs capital gains tax lines up.

          Savings interest and such is already taxed as income, no?

          Hitting retirement accounts would make investing enough to retire harder, but tax brackets could be set so as to limit this effect (which, again, wouldn’t happen) while still capturing an awful lot of real estate sale income. Almost any house in my city has gone up by enough to immediately put you in upper-middle-class range for your income by itself if you bought it even just a handful of years ago, so selling/trading/working in addition to that would tax the sale significantly.

          I get that there would be a burden to “common folk” but I would really love to see how much, compared to closing the easy out for richer folk.

    • @[email protected]
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      39 months ago

      This is the key problem of the housing market. For generations we’ve been told the only way to wealth is home ownership - so nobody will ever support more housing because you don’t live in a house, or a neighborhood, you live in an investment and you’ve put all your retirement eggs into this single investment instead of diversifying. So, if new housing pushes value down you don’t see “Hey new neighbors” you see “there goes my retirement.”

      Now, of course, institutional investors are involved and we’re just all fucked.

      • @[email protected]
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        19 months ago

        Institutional investors should not be permitted to buy residencial properties.

        (Well, I would say that they should not be permitted to exists, but we are not there yet.)