• @[email protected]
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    368 months ago

    When Gmail first came out 20 years ago (as of yesterday), we all thought that. It was a new world and nobody was thinking about the long term ramifications. Before that point, there wasn’t even such a thing as a Google account, Google was just a search engine that didn’t operate all that differently than Duck Duck Go does today.

    I don’t even think that Google had a plan at that point in the game. Monetization was the obvious goal, but nobody really thought about what that would look like.

    Since then, Google users’ privacy has experienced death by a thousand cuts. If the terms you have to agree with today were known then, Gmail never would have succeeded.

    With every new product and feature added to a Google account holder’s toolbox over the past two decades, creeping normalization came with them, and here we are today…

    • @fluckx
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      128 months ago

      Exactly. Same as is happening with privacy right now. Chip away bit by bit. Do it all at once and people will complain. But do it bit by bit and they won’t know until it’s too late.

      Similarly to the story of the frog in the boiling water. Drop it in hot water and it’ll jump out. Heat the water slowly and it’ll boil to death.

      But hey. At least we’ve got nothing to hide right? /S

      • @[email protected]
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        88 months ago

        Protonmail is today (or was a few years ago) what everyone thought Gmail was when it came out. I can still remember how excited I was to get an email accepting me into the Gmail beta. A crazy amount of space, no one knew how they did it.

          • @[email protected]
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            18 months ago

            It came with an implicit agreement of trust. You had a company just wanting to make the world more connected and had the money to do it. Cue the Snowden leaks and we find out they’d been working with the NSA for some time, giving indirect access to all user data.

        • @[email protected]
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          18 months ago

          I moved to the Proton suite last year, apart from some shitfuckery regarding decrypting/organizing and some teething issues with their Linux app, it’s been all smiles.

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        58 months ago

        As a side note, here’s what Wikipedia says about the frog experiment:

        “While some 19th-century experiments suggested that the underlying premise is true if the heating is sufficiently gradual,[2][3] according to modern biologists the premise is false: changing location is a natural thermoregulation strategy for frogs and other ectotherms, and is necessary for survival in the wild. A frog that is gradually heated will jump out. Furthermore, a frog placed into already boiling water will die immediately, not jump out.[4][5]”

        Your point still stands, but you might want to consider switching to another metaphor next time.

        Source: Boiling frog

        • @fluckx
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          48 months ago

          Fair enough. I’ve never looked it up :)

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            Neither did I until one day I stumbled upon a video that explained the misguided experiments that were behind the saying. Just today I started reading about it on Wikipedia and found that juicy summary.

            There’s a pretty good reason why we have ethical restrictions and peer review with modern science.