I’m thinking of getting a second phone to ease off iOS. It has been good for productivity stuff but the closed off nature of the device keeps disrupting my plans. Everything is either expensive or ad ridden. (Except floccus, floccus is awesome)

So far I have read about graphene OS and am quite interested. I really despise google though. Any chance to use another device and put some linux flavor on it? I was playing with the idea of a pinephone but it seems to be nowhere near daily drivable, fairphone is starting at 580 €, volla phone (german) 450 €…

Some people said xiaomi should be rootable. But the amount of different phones is huge. The price range is awesome though. I was thinking sub 300 €/$ would be awesome so tinkering doesnt hurt me financially.

Disclaimer: I dont want to go full hermit mode with no sim and a faraday bag. I respect the opinion but thats not what I’m trying to do. I want to write some small apps for my phone and use it as a computer if needed. Calling, matrix and browser should work flawlessly.

Any ideas or suggestions? :)

      • @ridethisbike
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        18 months ago

        That’s what I’ve done for my last few phones. Aside from a battery issue that got replaced on a “recall” of sorts, my pixel 4XL has been running strong for years now. Haven’t bought a brand new phone for well over a decade now

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        How do you buy a second hand Puxl safely?

        With iPhone there’s so many horror stories. Mainly what they do is buy the phone through some means that opens up the possibility of credit card fraud, then pass the phone on. Then they do the charge back to reclaim the money. Apple then bricks the device of course due to non payment and you as the second hand owner are stuck with a decorative piece.

        • @[email protected]
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          08 months ago

          My Puxl was from eBay.

          To be honest, I don’t know much about how credit cards can be associated with phone hardware. I would think it could conceivably be tied to phone #s. In my case the phone is unlocked and it’s not an esim, which I understand we will all be moving too soon.

          I wonder if it might have something to do with Google Pay or Apple Pay that ties hardware information to payments? And as for Esim, it might make it so that you can’t distinguish phones based on their physical sim card so it perhaps introduces a possibility of reliance on hardware.

          But this is all speculation on my part. I just don’t know and I haven’t made whatever precautions would be needed.

          • @[email protected]
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            Oh! No-no. Must phone purchases in NA are made by CC at either the manufacturer’s store / website or a telephone provider’s store or website. The CC is not tied to the phone itself. But the purchase of the item is.

            If you buy something with a credit card, you can dispute a charge and claim “goods not received” with the issuer of the credit card. After a time period you usually get the money back.

            I’ll try to demonstrate:

    • hauiOP
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      18 months ago

      Thats what I‘m thinking about as well.

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        Currently have a pixel 6 256gig

        Spent about a half hour in a hot tub with it in my pocket on saturday and it shut automatically disables the usb port.

        Havent had any issues with it this week

        If it helps

        (In a sprigen case)

        • hauiOP
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          What? I mean, did you test it or what was the idea with that?

          • @Jarix
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            Its like when you walk full speed into a glass door because you forgot THAT one sliding glass door DOES, in fact, exist.

            Or drive away from your parking spot with food on the top of your car.

            Inconsequentlycoincidently I had taken edible and also tried a new whiskey called spicebox chocolate. Its a canadian rye whiskey aged in cocoa bean barrels the label says. So im not entirely sure th at