• Digester
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    171 year ago

    Do you know what makes windows great? It just works out of the box with broad driver and software compatibility. Extensive hardware support (Windows 10 runs on any brand new hardware as well as old hardware from 12 years ago). Many professional software applications, such as Adobe Creative Cloud, Autodesk products, and Microsoft Office, are primarily developed for Windows. If you rely on specific professional software, Windows offes better compatibility and support.

    Linux offers better security and has a large repository of open source software as well as being very developer friendly. If you’re reading this it’s thanks to Linux. However switching to Linux isn’t a viable option for everyone for the aforementioned points. It surprises me to this day how many smart and tech savvy individuals still can’t grasp this concept.

    • Tekchip
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      Yeah, I’m going to have to call you on that whole "Windows just works"TM business. I just had to install drivers, during setup, for a regular hard drive in Windows Server 2019. Last time I tried to run the game Rust on Windows 11 it just wouldn’t run and I blew hours and never could find a solution. Had to go back to Win 10 to get it to run. It’s also pretty easy to pay attention to any news feed and see an endless string of Windows is now broken like X on basically a weekly basis at this point. MS Fired their entire QA team and only tests on virtual machines now. Zero surprise Windows breaks in all sorts of new and interesting ways when it finally meets the real world. Anyone who makes this statement is at best naive and at worst a bold face liar/shill. I do try to assume most people are the prior of course.

      That said the rest of your statement is spot on. Right tool for the right job will never not be relevant.

      • Digester
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        41 year ago

        Printers suck universally, no matter the OS. It’s something everyone can agree on.

        I had the opposite experience, I couldn’t find drivers on Linux for my old Audio Interface (M Audio) from the 2000s but I was able to find an installer for windows on some website and ran just fine on Windows 10. This isn’t even the issue with old tech, if I can’t find drivers (on either OS) for a 15 years old Audio interface, it’s not the end of the world, I just have to accept it. What I find troublesome is sometimes getting modern hardware to work on Linux, especially something that was never designed to work on it.

        • @Dnn
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          21 year ago

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      • @[email protected]
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        21 year ago

        I remember Nvidia putting their driver into GeForce Experience just before I stopped using Windows completely. It was taking the driver, adding a user interface on it, stuffed ads inside, required a Nvidia account and ran in the tray all the time. :)

        I assume it still works like that on windows. It’s just filled to the brink with shit like that.

          • @[email protected]
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            Sure, but it’s the culture of windows. Everything is corporate speak, filled with ads, and taking over the users computer. I got so sick of it all.

            Linux is amazing. It just gets out of the way and provides a fast smooth system that never slows down. Has an excellent fast command line and many great applications handled by a very fast and efficient package manager…I mean, it’s just so much better that it’s no going back.

            • @dustojnikhummer
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              01 year ago

              “Gets out of the way”

              Yeah I will stop you right there buddy.

      • @dustojnikhummer
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        01 year ago

        I have literally never had to hunt down some old ass drivers on 90s looking shitty websites on linux

        I spent an hour trying to get my Broadcomm wifi card working on Debian. Gave up…

        Windows is a bit easier, you need to find the right package, but then it’s just one “next next next install” away

        • @MeanEYE
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          Literally one command away.

            • @MeanEYE
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              01 year ago

              There are other ways than terminal. I just found it the easiest way to show the list of available drivers in Debian with a single command.

              Also I call bullshit on that “terminal = no”. If people are capable of copy pasting URL they are capable of copying single line of text as well. Even if someone is afraid of terminal it provides a lot less ambiguity and should give it a shot. It doesn’t require navigating through user interface which has tendency to change over time while following someone’s instructions or images which might leave out the step or fail to include where to click, move, open then go to tab, 3rd row down, click open… etc. Besides nothing happens if you make a mistake. World doesn’t end. Computer doesn’t explode.

              • @dustojnikhummer
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                11 year ago

                Windows has been GUI only for end users for 22 years by now…

                t doesn’t require navigating through user interface

                Yes because terminal syntax and binaries can’t change either, right?

                • @MeanEYE
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                  11 year ago

                  Windows has not been GUI only. It also has terminal and configuration through it.

    • @MeanEYE
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      21 year ago

      Extensive hardware support is not really true. Windows is supported by hardware manufacturers because it’s popular, but Microsoft isn’t the one making drivers. So Windows doesn’t have extensive hardware support since after installing the OS you have to spend time installing drivers which manufacturers made otherwise it’s almost unusable.

      • Digester
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        11 year ago

        Saying that Windows has driver support means that drivers are supported by the system (because they exist and are available) regardless of the driver’s provider. The entities providing the drivers are essentially what gives Windows support.

        Sure you have to spend time installing drivers just like you would have to spend time installing any type of software on a machine to achieve the operating function you require. I don’t think I fully understand what you’re trying to say here.

        • @MeanEYE
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          01 year ago

          You are using “support” instead of “capability”. Having capability of installing drivers is pretty much given to any operating system. Said drivers being provided for the operating system in question is a hardware manufacturer thing. Microsoft doesn’t provide support for drivers, they provide capability of installing drivers. Microsoft is not involved in development process of said drivers not do they offer technical support in resolving issues regarding them. The fact Windows is the most popular means most manufacturers will support Windows but that has nothing to do with Microsoft other than charging for that sticker they put on boxes.

          If you buy nVidia card, it’s nVidia that supports Windows, not that Windows supports nVidia. nVidia made the effort to develop and test software on that operating system, is providing technical support for that software, has upgrade paths, etc. Windows is just there and popular.

          • @Redditiscancer789
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            01 year ago

            This is completely asinine, you need to read up on your history. Microsoft literally created DirectX in 95 to help developers for software and hardware develop multimedia drivers and applications for windows.

            "In late 1994, Microsoft was ready to release Windows 95, its next operating system. An important factor in the value consumers would place on it was the programs that would be able to run on it. Microsoft employee Alex St. John had been in discussions with various game developers asking how likely they would be to bring their MS-DOS games to Windows 95, and found the responses mostly negative; programmers had found that the Windows environment did not provide the necessary features which were available under MS-DOS using BIOS routines or direct hardware access.[6] There were also strong fears of compatibility; a notable case of this was from Disney’s Animated Storybook: The Lion King which was based on the WinG programming interface.[7] Due to numerous incompatible graphics drivers from new Compaq computers that were not tested with the WinG interface which came bundled with the game, it crashed so frequently on many desktop systems that parents had flooded Disney’s call-in help lines.[8][9]

            St. John recognized the resistances for game development under Windows would be a limitation, and recruited two additional engineers, Craig Eisler and Eric Engstrom, to develop a better solution to get more programmers to develop games for Windows. The project was codenamed the Manhattan Project, like the World War II project of the same name, and the idea was to displace the Japanese-developed video game consoles with personal computers running Microsoft’s operating system.[8] It had initially used the radiation symbol as its logo but Microsoft asked the team to change the logo.[8] Management did not agree to the project as they were already writing off Windows as a gaming platform, but the three committed towards this project’s development.[9] Their rebellious nature led Brad Silverberg, the senior vice president of Microsoft’s office products, to name the trio the “Beastie Boys”.[10] "

            Its also completely foolish to think that the driver engineers from any specific company don’t have a corporate support line to contact if they need help with something or a personal contact they could bounce ideas off of.

    • @Cannacheques
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      11 year ago

      Linux is not more secure really, it’s just assumed to be so because it’s less widely attacked for having less market share

      • @Valmond
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        11 year ago

        Nah, you have a user, it cannot mess with another user, by design.

        In windows you can do so many crappy things it’s incredible, like rescue boot and just change the crowd strike executables with a notepad++ exe aaand you are “free!”

        The security holes ae trash too, you can’t deny that. Corporate PCs are plagued with “anti virus” and other scanning softs, sending your every keystroke to some authentication server so see if no malicious intent is detected.

        If you want to do something efficient, Windows is no longer the way IMO.