• Cosmic Cleric
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    It’s not so much a circlejerk as much as a knowledge that KDE plasma is the most approachable DE with the most polished first experience for the majority of new users

    You say that like it’s a fact rather than just your personal opinion.

    It’s a safe assumption to make though, based on the fact that KDE most closely mimics the Windows UX, which Gnome does not, and that the vast majority of human beings who use computers are most familiar with the Windows UX, hence most approachable.

    • @TheGrandNagus
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      I reject the premise that just because more people use Windows, a Windows UX must be the most intuitive and alternatives must appear more complicated to use.

      There are more households that drive cars than ride a bike - is a car therefore a more intuitive to use transport tool than a bike?

      • Cosmic Cleric
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        18 months ago

        I reject the premise that just because more people use Windows, a Windows UX must be the most intuitive and alternatives must appear more complicated to use.

        That’s one hell of a ‘heavy lift’ to create a non-Windows UX experience that is more intuitive and easier for Windows user to adapt to that is completely different from the Windows UX experience they know today.

        Not saying it’s not possible, but I think you’d have better success in pulling people over from Windows to Linux if the UX experience was similar, since they’re already dealing with a retraining issue (Linux) that is a barrier they have to overcome when transferring over.

        There’s no need to add more obstacles to that transference process.

        • @TheGrandNagus
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          18 months ago

          You’re again assuming that being a windows clone will intrinsically make a DE more intuitive. I don’t think that’s true at all.

          • Cosmic Cleric
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            You’re again assuming that being a windows clone will intrinsically make a DE more intuitive.

            Yes I am, and I base that on my observance of human nature, and how a level of complexity of learning something new is a barrier that affects adopting something new, as well as my own personal experience as a UI/UX software developer for some decades.

            An alternative UX would have to be incredibly intuitive to overcome that. And, with respect, Gnome is not that.

            I don’t think that’s true at all.

            Well we’ll just agree to disagree then. Appreciate the discussion though.

      • @[email protected]
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        18 months ago

        That’s a crazy take though. Everyone knows that what you’re most familiar with is way more intuitive than something you’ve never touched in your life.

        There are more households that drive cars than ride a bike - is a car therefore a more intuitive to use transport tool than a bike?

        How intuitive something is only affects the initial experience. This is why driving a car usually takes a year to learn in most countries - it’s not very intuitive. If you know how to drive a car, however, you can learn to drive a bus much faster - it’s now intuitive because you already know how to drive a car, which is similar.

        So of course whichever DE replicates windows the best is going to be the most intuitive. Doesn’t mean that it’s better once you’ve gotten used to it though.