• Jesus
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    9 months ago

    Janette in finance is going to murder whoever tries to give her a FOSS alternative to Excel or forces her to fuck with a VM or web Excel.

    We remember the last IT admin that tried to do a platform swap on her. RIP Patrick.

    • Gormadt
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      339 months ago

      I think the most infuriating part about web Excel and desktop Excel is that they don’t have feature parity.

      There’s stuff that works on desktop but not web and it’s really frustrating.

      • @[email protected]
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        269 months ago

        Don’t you know? Some calculations can only be done locally. They are too complicated to be performed over the cloud. It needs to be done on your i3/4GB RAM PC.

        • @sazey
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          89 months ago

          I know your comment was in jest but the backend of these apps runs on cloud, the frontend is still using your local resources and is usually a bloated piece of poop to boot.

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            9 months ago

            Electron: I am in this comment and I do not like it.

            Jokes aside, MS Office now auto-generates clipart and various other assets via GenAI which obviously is via cloud. They can do feature parity if they want to. But often with MS products, their products use so much legacy libraries, it’s a huge pain for the devs to find their corresponding web-libraries.

            I’m pretty sure Office still uses a random API which uses ie6.

    • @[email protected]
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      99 months ago

      As someone who uses Excel on Windows and Calc on Linux, I can totally understand. There are some big differences so there’s a valid reason for sticking with Excel. Casual users won’t notice anything big, but advanced users will.

      On the other hand, if you’re an advanced Excel user, it usually means you’re trying to make it do stuff that it isn’t very good at. If you want stuff that Calc can’t provide, it’s a clear sign you should have written that calculation in R or Python a long time ago.

      • @[email protected]
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        59 months ago

        And honestly, I’ve been using Excel for work stuff a lot lately (no OO or I’d use that) and it fucks up a lot and in maddening ways. Click a cell at the bottom of your multi-page sheet “Oh, you must have been trying to click A5 so I’m going to scroll way the fuck up here”

        Copy-paste from other (even MS) apps also sometimes does weird shit

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          Oh, it certainly has infuriating quirks. Like, if you copy a cell from here and you plan to paste it into 15 different places here and there. Somewhere along the way, you’ll accidentally add some text to another cell, and you lose the content of the clipboard. You need to copy that thing a second time in order to keep on pasting in the remaining places. Like, why is this a feature? Editing one cell suddenly kicks out whatever you had copied earlier? Why?

          Fortunately, Calc still has a sensible clipboard that actually remembers what you put there.

      • @[email protected]
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        29 months ago

        I really wish there was a more sensible path from WYSIWYG sheets to full programing language and database. Heck even better find a way to make calculation description procs that can be ran as separate functions for better scalability

        • @[email protected]
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          29 months ago

          LabVIEW pulls off visual programming pretty gracefully. It feels like, it’s written by, and for, electrical engineers, so if you’re not familiar with circuit diagrams, it’s going to take a while to wrap your head around it. However, it proves to me that programming can look very different too. Let’s just hope that eventually someone does something similar to matrices, dataframes etc.

    • @KISSmyOSFeddit
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      89 months ago

      "Hey Janette. Switching to Linux will save the company $$$$$$$ per year.
      Your options are:

      • Create more value than that so it’s worthwhile to stay on Windows for you
      • Find a new job
      • Deal with it"