The world has experienced its hottest day on record, according to meteorologists.

The average global temperature reached 17.01C (62.62F) on Monday, according to the US National Centres for Environmental Prediction.

The figure surpasses the previous record of 16.92C (62.46F) - set back in August 2016.

  • @[email protected]
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    11 year ago

    So you have all the moral justification of a person fighting for his life here? That’s a pretty significant level of moral authority to wield.

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        11 year ago

        I mean, pretty much anything goes then right? Like, if I crush a puppy’s skull with my foot it’s a horrible thing to do. But if that was the only way I could avoid dying people would understand.

        So basically being in fear of your life means “I get to do anything to anyone and it’s justifiable”

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          11 year ago

          Well, no, I’m not that greedy for life. After a certain point it’s not worth it and I’ll just make it quick and painless. Life isn’t always preferable to death, I’d need to be able to live with myself afterwards!

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            11 year ago

            Damn I am. I’ll rip the belly out of a live kitten if it’s truly the only way to live. I’ve been afraid for my life before and I never blame anyone for doing what it takes to survive.

            What I take issue with is the level of certainty that such an abstract, complex thing is the same class of threat as someone firing a gun at you or a lion charging you.

            Elevating long chains of logical reasoning, and not applying a mitigating layer of uncertainty to each step to reflect the possibility of mistakes or misinterpretations, so that full-on motivation comes out the other end, strikes me as unwise.

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              1 year ago

              You’re treating the threat as something abstract, like there aren’t specific people who are to blame for destroying the world. As if it’s no one’s fault, so violence falls on anyone in the name of survival. Even puppies and kittens lol

              I think we have to treat climate change as the same class of threat as someone shooting at us, and that means identifying the shooters and … “disarming” them.

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                11 year ago

                But is abstracted away. That’s what abstract means. You think some specific person is out there endangering your life. If they are about to murder you, then I’d support you literally killing them. I’m for self defense. I just think it needs to be a clear and present danger to be justified.

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                  1 year ago

                  There are specific people who are, together, responsible. The oil execs that chose to cover up the truth about global warming, the meat industry execs who did the same, the hucksters that sell the lie of carbon sequestration and ethanol fuel and hydrogen fuel as solutions, the investors that continue to pump money into oil exploration projects, and the politicians that have stopped any meaningful progress from happening. There are, in fact, individual people that we can point to and say “they are the problem” - it’s not abstract.

                  We have enemies and they’re killing us.

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                    01 year ago

                    What about me? I drive a car, have a carbon footprint, etc.

                    How is my own (and your) responsibility for global warming different than theirs?

                    And don’t say “they profit off it”. You and I both profit off it too. We live in a veritable heaven compared to those in pre-industrial times. We inherited and enjoy enormous wealth that can be traced to the burning of fossil fuels.