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  • @Serinus
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    -49 months ago

    Bitwarden proper wants $40/year to have two users sharing passwords. You might try Vaultwarden?

    • @hperrin
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      119 months ago

      That doesn’t seem unreasonable at all for not having to host your own server.

      • @Serinus
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        -99 months ago

        That’s with hosting your own server. Unfortunately I only discovered this paywall after sending them $10 out of good will.

        Of course it’s open source, so it’s certainly possible to break their DRM, and if it were something less sensitive I would.

        I still might, but VaultWarden looks like a better alternative.

        • @hperrin
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          99 months ago

          Nowhere on their pricing page does it say you need to host your own server.

    • @[email protected]
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      99 months ago

      I pay $10/year for my wife and I, total. The $40 is if you want 3-6 people. AFAIK, you still need to pay if you self-host and use the premium features, but you can self host on the free plan as well.

      $10/year for my wife and I is completely reasonable, and I’d pay the $40/year if my kids needed their own accounts. It’s a fantastic service.

      • @Serinus
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        19 months ago

        If you self host you need the $40 plan for two people. Seems kinda backwards, doesn’t it?

        Yeah, they absolutely don’t make that clear or I wouldn’t have gone with Bitwarden.

          • @Serinus
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            -19 months ago

            You’d think that based on your link, wouldn’t you. I did.

            My support ticket response:

            Hi Serinus,
            ​There actually isnt a mistake what you are reading is the pricing page for premium individuals, which you already have. But if you check our pricing page for orgs and you are in the free org, you will see that you cannot self-host the free org, as seen here.
            You can find more information here; https://bitwarden.com/help/password-manager-plans/#compare-personal-plans
            I hope you find this clear and helpful.
            Kind regards,
            A
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            • @[email protected]
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              29 months ago

              Your issue is creating an org. The free tier allows again one collection with one user. So don’t create an org, share a collection.

              • @Serinus
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                19 months ago

                One user can’t share a collection with another user. An org is required to share.

                • @[email protected]
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                  29 months ago

                  I’ll have to check. I haven’t self-hosted mine yet, but I thought the collection share I do with my wife is different.

                  You could very well be right, which would be disappointing.

                  • @Serinus
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                    29 months ago

                    If you discover anything different, I’d love to try it! Currently we’re either going to share a single login (which might get odd with 2fa devices) or just use VaultWarden.