• @[email protected]
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    79 months ago

    a little guy attacking a big guy needs to expect a big response. it’s moronic to believe anything else

    • @Maggoty
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      9 months ago

      The guerilla doesn’t need to win, just not lose. The correct response if you actually want to end the fighting is to attack the Idea. Which turns out to be a careful balancing act of of fighting radicals while respecting and helping the local population.

      This is… Not that.

      • @FlowVoid
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        -19 months ago

        You are describing the American response to the Taliban. I suspect Israel saw what happened in Afghanistan and decided that it wasn’t the “correct response” after all.

        • @Maggoty
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          29 months ago

          It’s a bit more than just that. If you look at successful counter insurgencies throughout history then you see it’s the defining trait. Afghanistan is an example of what happens when you try to change the culture at the same time, have a corrupt reporting chain that doesn’t report failure, and the enemy can hide in the next country over. You can do everything right and still lose, and we didn’t do everything right.

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            9 months ago

            Fair enough.

            Still, I’m not sure if Israel is even performing a counterinsurgency operation. Hamas was in control of the government of Gaza, after all. This may have more in common with a regime change, or some hybrid of the two.

            • @Maggoty
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              19 months ago

              Regime change can be counter insurgency too though if the people liked their government. Imagine if the US Army sucked and Russia occupied the US. They’d have to fight an insurgency too. So there’s a lot of crossover. In both cases you treat civilians as gently as possible.