I do not trust password managers. There’s a saying that goes ‘do not put all of your eggs in one basket’ and that’s what I don’t do. Mobile, Desktop, whatever, I don’t use a single password manager. It wasn’t long ago that a password management company was compromised, right? What are the odds that similar circumstances could happen on another password management company? It’d be a disaster.
Whatever happened to just simply having a notepad program/app and documenting your passwords onto there?
Ironic to the contrary, I’ve caught myself using browsers such as chrome to save my passwords for easier log in. But that’s simply out of my decaying memory due to age, not necessarily because I have a bias with Google and I trust them with everything. I still don’t trust them with everything.
Are you suggesting keeping a plaintext file for all your credentials is preferable to an encrypted password vault?
Lastpass was the company breached - I closed my account soon after, but moved to 1Password.
The way it’s supposed to work is the password vaults are encrypted. Only knowing the passphrase should decrypt it. So while Lastpass had a bunch of stuff leak, which I think included some vaults - as long as you have a strong passphrase it shouldn’t be possible to crack.
Conversely, if you get some malware scooping your files, as soon as they have that plaintext file on your desktop they own every single credential in there
Keeping a text file with passwords in clear text is so much less secure than a proper password manager. Even if the company is breached, at least they are encrypted by a master password and take significant time and effort to brute force. That text file is readable by anyone who gets their hands on it, and with the prevalence of malware, it’s a pretty huge gamble to store passwords on your own computer where you are ultimately the only person responsible for your cyber security.
People are assuming I just have my passwords littered out on open desktop and in My Documents? Little naive to assume so, when there exists and I have used programs like TrueCrypt to encrypt partitions of private data including those passwords in. Like, good luck getting through that. And, what more, is that master passwords are stored in expansive media and not just strewn about for anyone to just grab and use. They’re never on my desktop nor any system I use.
I do not trust password managers. There’s a saying that goes ‘do not put all of your eggs in one basket’ and that’s what I don’t do. Mobile, Desktop, whatever, I don’t use a single password manager. It wasn’t long ago that a password management company was compromised, right? What are the odds that similar circumstances could happen on another password management company? It’d be a disaster.
Whatever happened to just simply having a notepad program/app and documenting your passwords onto there?
Ironic to the contrary, I’ve caught myself using browsers such as chrome to save my passwords for easier log in. But that’s simply out of my decaying memory due to age, not necessarily because I have a bias with Google and I trust them with everything. I still don’t trust them with everything.
Are you suggesting keeping a plaintext file for all your credentials is preferable to an encrypted password vault?
Lastpass was the company breached - I closed my account soon after, but moved to 1Password.
The way it’s supposed to work is the password vaults are encrypted. Only knowing the passphrase should decrypt it. So while Lastpass had a bunch of stuff leak, which I think included some vaults - as long as you have a strong passphrase it shouldn’t be possible to crack.
Conversely, if you get some malware scooping your files, as soon as they have that plaintext file on your desktop they own every single credential in there
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Keeping a text file with passwords in clear text is so much less secure than a proper password manager. Even if the company is breached, at least they are encrypted by a master password and take significant time and effort to brute force. That text file is readable by anyone who gets their hands on it, and with the prevalence of malware, it’s a pretty huge gamble to store passwords on your own computer where you are ultimately the only person responsible for your cyber security.
People are assuming I just have my passwords littered out on open desktop and in My Documents? Little naive to assume so, when there exists and I have used programs like TrueCrypt to encrypt partitions of private data including those passwords in. Like, good luck getting through that. And, what more, is that master passwords are stored in expansive media and not just strewn about for anyone to just grab and use. They’re never on my desktop nor any system I use.
So please, don’t just assume I am that careless…
And no I will still not use a password manager.