https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html

Many of us do not trust Facebook and anything it is associated with or swallows up.

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https://techcrunch.com/2023/07/05/adam-mosseri-says-metas-threads-app-wont-have-activitypub-support-at-launch/

"Instagram head Adam Mosseri said "

““Soon, you’ll be able to follow and interact with people on other fediverse platforms, such as Mastodon. They can also find people on Threads using full usernames, such as @[email protected].””

“We’re committed to building support for ActivityPub, the protocol behind Mastodon, into this app. We weren’t able to finish it for launch given a number of complications that come along with a decentralized network, but it’s coming,” he said.

“If you’re wondering why this matters, here’s a reason: you may one day end up leaving Threads, or, hopefully not, end up de-platformed. If that ever happens, you should be able to take your audience with you to another server. Being open can enable that.”

  • @ccunning
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    31 year ago

    Again. You’re replying with a comment/link that does not address any of the points I made.

    • @JigglySackles
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      11 year ago

      They provided little in the way of extra elaboration but that link explains a very good reason to be suspicious of corporations and hesitant to add them to any open platform. That directly speaks to your original question of why should you be concerned. I understand that the format of lemmy and threads aren’t entirely compatible and if that’s the case, then there is no need to federate with them as federation can only cause issues and provide no benefit.

      • pjhenry1216
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        11 year ago

        That article is FUD. Apple hurt XMPP just as much by never joining it and offering a messaging system within their own ecosystem so folks had no reason to create a second account. XMPP would have been harmed by competition just as much if Google didn’t join it. It was competition that killed it. Not that they had joined.

        • @JigglySackles
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          11 year ago

          The article isn’t FUD. FUD is a propaganda tactic. This is a recounting of events from the perspective of an insider. Just because it may give cause to have uncertainty or doubt or hell, even fear, doesn’t mean it is a propaganda piece. And especially knowing how tech giants behave towards any and all competition this is really just a textbook retelling of one of the many events that fall into this same pattern.

          • pjhenry1216
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            11 year ago

            It’s FUD because it’s objectively not the reason XMPP failed.

            • @JigglySackles
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              11 year ago

              It may not be the only reason but it surely is a part of the issue. Few articles are going to cover the whole of it.

              • pjhenry1216
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                11 year ago

                Google wasn’t competing with XMPP and XMPP would still be where it is today without Google’s “interference.” Google was losing chat market share to Apple and Blackberry. That’s why it’s history of chat applications is a mess. It kept throwing new stuff at the wall and hoping it stuck. They literally migrated to a new chat application again just a couple years ago.

                Plus, it doesn’t address this topic at all. If Threads joins the fediverse, they join the fediverse. Defederating them before we even know what will happen or if they’ll even affect this instance doesn’t help fight this. A bunch of people telling others they need to leave any instance who doesn’t confirm will do actively more harm than Threads might possibly maybe do in the future.

                • @JigglySackles
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                  11 year ago

                  I agree we shouldn’t be pushing people to leave the instance. I don’t think that solves the issue. But I still don’t think Meta should be federated with. Both due to their content and exhibited behaviors on their platforms. Extending any invite towards that entity will end poorly.

                  • pjhenry1216
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                    01 year ago

                    Describe in any level of detail instead of literal FUD (you’re simply using vague notions), what can happen if defederation occurs after seeing what happens instead of before. What cannot be prevented by defederation after the fact. And let’s bare in mind Threads’ developer already talked about being multi-instance. We don’t even know if it will even federate with Lemmy/Kbin for that matter.

                    You’re drumming up fear, uncertainty, and doubt about something that may not even remotely be a problem. We don’t need to create some Lemmy version of Fox News here.