• FaceDeer
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    77 months ago

    The founding fathers also kept slaves and didn’t let women vote. I’m tired of how Americans deify them, I suggest citing economists as authorities on economics instead of 18th century wealthy landowners.

    • @WhatsThePoint
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      117 months ago

      I’m not deifying them by mentioning something they got right. I’m tired of people’s all or nothing lack of nuance. Humanity would be nowhere without the advancements of flawed people from the past. We can’t use our measuring stick on their lives without a huge degree of hypocrisy considering how much society has changed even in the last half century. For all their short comings, the founding fathers did create the frame work that most modern democracies are built on and ushered humanity away from monarchy.

      • FaceDeer
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        37 months ago

        Most modern democracies are parliamentary, actually. The US system has not been widely mimicked aside from cherry-picking a few specific details.

        Also, monarchy and democracy are not mutually exclusive. I’m Canadian, for example, which is a democratic constitutional monarchy. We still have a king but we elect our government.

        • @[email protected]
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          17 months ago

          Yes, but your king is basically a mascot. If they had any actual power, your system would be less democratic basically by definition.

          • FaceDeer
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            17 months ago

            Sure, but that’s adding quibbles beyond the scope of what I was responding to. We’re a democracy and we still have a monarch.

    • @[email protected]
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      37 months ago

      They were the economists of their time. Basic economic theory hasn’t changed in millennia, only opinion on how to manage economies has.

      • FaceDeer
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        37 months ago

        There were economists in the 18th century and none of the founding fathers were one.

        The closest was probably Alexander Hamilton, who ended up as the first treasury secretary. Where he proposed and set up the very central bank that the commenter I was responding to is complaining about.