Talk about having essentially forgotten about it. I bet!

I suppose they only did it now due to some license agreement expiring?

  • @jeffw
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    147 months ago

    Weird coincidence, I’m in the middle of this rn. Haven’t played Starfield but this is one of my favorite Bethesda titles outside of Doom and Wolfenstein

    • @Viking_Hippie
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      57 months ago

      Bethesda titles outside of Doom and Wolfenstein

      …wat

        • @Viking_Hippie
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          TIL!

          Edit to make @[email protected]’ comment make sense again:

          I originally answered “definitely not the original ones!” ør something to that effect, but found that it might be needlessly combative, so I changed it to just TIL 😁

          • Lols [they/them]
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            17 months ago

            i assumed they were talking about the bethesda published reboots, what with them being significantly more popular than the earlier games

            • @grue
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              117 months ago

              I mean, if someone says “Doom and Wolfenstein” without specifying “Doom Eternal” and “Wolfenstein: Youngblood” (which I had to look up, BTW), I’m thinking of Id.

              • ThrowawayOnLemmy
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                47 months ago

                Me too, but I’m old. I’m betting age has something to do with this.

              • Lols [they/them]
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                27 months ago

                I mean, if someone says “Doom and Wolfenstein” without specifying “Doom Eternal” and “Wolfenstein: Youngblood” (which I had to look up, BTW), I’m thinking of Id.

                that makes sense, especially since Doom eternal is in fact still developed by id

                Wolfenstein and Doom have both reached significantly more people since they got adopted by zenimax though, so most folks who actually played the games will have probably gotten introduced to them as Bethesda published games

                “Wolfenstein: Youngblood” (which I had to look up, BTW),

                lol ok

            • @Viking_Hippie
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              67 months ago

              what with them being significantly more popular than the earlier games

              Dude! The original ones were cultural touchstones in a market that wasn’t yet oversaturated. They literally invented and defined the whole genre!

              More people might be playing the new ones NOW, but the original ones were undoubtedly MUCH more popular in their time.

              • Lols [they/them]
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                Dude! The original ones were cultural touchstones in a market that wasn’t yet oversaturated. They literally invented and defined the whole genre!

                the original ones were undoubtedly MUCH more popular in their time.

                i mean sure, but that also doesnt matter to the point i was making

                More people might be playing the new ones NOW

                which is why most folks are probably not talking about the old games when they say they like wolfenstein and doom

                • @Viking_Hippie
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                  57 months ago

                  which is why most folks are probably not talking about the old games when they say they like wolfenstein and doom

                  I wouldn’t be so sure about that, what with the “It runs Doom” meme and the fact that most people on Lemmy seem to be old fucks like me who played them when they originally came out 😄

                • @jorp
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                  17 months ago

                  Yeah like when we say RoboCop we think of the 2014 movie because it made a lot more at box office, and nobody thinks of the iconic and hugely influential original movie unless you say RoboCop (1987)

                  • Lols [they/them]
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                    07 months ago

                    the difference is that discussions about robocop are exclusively about the original

                    if youre convinced the wolfenstein and doom reboots have the same impact and relevance as robocop (2014) youre entirely allowed to stay that way, im not gonna try and shake you out of it

            • Aniki 🌱🌿
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              07 months ago

              Mate, Wolfenstein means something so far beyond a bunch of entirely forgettable reboots.

              • Lols [they/them]
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                thats great

                the reboot is still probably most fans entry point to the franchise and frame of reference for discussing it, especially during a discussion about Bethesda

                that is not any kind of dig at the older games, the quality of them is entirely irrelevant to the point i was making

                you dont need to come to the defense of them, especially by venting about games that i also do not care about

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        The reboots, they’ve owned the rights (or maybe ZeniMax technically?) of both for over a decade. I think id was bought out. So the Doom 2016 and Wolfenstein 2014 games and newer games are Bethesda published.

        Edit: ZeniMax bought id in 2009, so Doom and Doom Eternal, as well as Wolfenstein New Order, New Colossus and the two spinoffs (Youngblood, Old Blood) are Bethesda-published.

    • @johannesvanderwhales
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      Yeah I thought this one was a bit underrated. I enjoyed it quite a bit.