I understand the vector, I’m just saying that maybe if people had conducted themselves responsibly, this wouldn’t be an issue.
Hiding behind a moniker to do things you would normally be shunned is bad for everyone. It allows trolls to thrive, reduces or removes the impetus for broader social change/evolution (offline, that is), and fosters echo chambers full of people who have zero responsibility to regulate what they say for the sake of sanity (because fuck it, who’s gonna call them on their bullshit, right? And even if someone does, “they’re” not being judged, “their profile” is, so they can separate themselves from any criticism without doing any self-reflecting).
If you want to post something (text, art, etc) and you have to stop and think about your reputation, that’s a good thing. It means you should either not do something stupid, or you should stand behind your actions, and give support to others to do/say that thing.
The other option is to post behind a fake name knowing that there are no consequences, and just call it a day (which is why the opinion of the average post is so easily dismissed at “some random person on the Internet”).
And if you really do need anonymity (because the thing your discussing is super difficult or dangerous for you)… maybe don’t fucking have that conversation in a public discord channel?
I mean, my first reply to OP literally said the same thing, but sure, it’s me moving the goal posts.
And I’m not talking about private as in “who owns and has ‘rights’ to the data” because “discord is s private company with TOS” (which offers zero protection, since scrapers don’t care about TOS, even when the scraper is a major company - See StabilityAI, Google, et al).
I’m taking private as in “not any random person can log in and see it”. Private discord servers and DMs don’t appear to be included. That’s the “private” I’m taking about.
I understand the vector, I’m just saying that maybe if people had conducted themselves responsibly, this wouldn’t be an issue.
Hiding behind a moniker to do things you would normally be shunned is bad for everyone. It allows trolls to thrive, reduces or removes the impetus for broader social change/evolution (offline, that is), and fosters echo chambers full of people who have zero responsibility to regulate what they say for the sake of sanity (because fuck it, who’s gonna call them on their bullshit, right? And even if someone does, “they’re” not being judged, “their profile” is, so they can separate themselves from any criticism without doing any self-reflecting).
If you want to post something (text, art, etc) and you have to stop and think about your reputation, that’s a good thing. It means you should either not do something stupid, or you should stand behind your actions, and give support to others to do/say that thing.
The other option is to post behind a fake name knowing that there are no consequences, and just call it a day (which is why the opinion of the average post is so easily dismissed at “some random person on the Internet”).
And if you really do need anonymity (because the thing your discussing is super difficult or dangerous for you)… maybe don’t fucking have that conversation in a public discord channel?
Imagine people wanting to discuss their sex life or fetishes without having to worry what their boss or neighbour would think of it.
@admin
Imagine having private conversations in private.
This data was apparently scraped from public channels.
It’s not public data though. You need to agree to the ToS before you can get to it. Which clearly states that you cannot use it without permission.
But you’re moving goal posts here, so I think I’ll just ignore you from now on.
I mean, my first reply to OP literally said the same thing, but sure, it’s me moving the goal posts.
And I’m not talking about private as in “who owns and has ‘rights’ to the data” because “discord is s private company with TOS” (which offers zero protection, since scrapers don’t care about TOS, even when the scraper is a major company - See StabilityAI, Google, et al).
I’m taking private as in “not any random person can log in and see it”. Private discord servers and DMs don’t appear to be included. That’s the “private” I’m taking about.
You fixated on one point while there are worse problems than just being ashamed of what you’ve said.
Stop.