Hello everyone, with the unfortunate passing of the FISA expansion, I was left with a few questions. I tried to research it, and to me, it seems like they are beefing up surveillance with routers and ISPs (correct me if I’m wrong.) Aside from having businesses stalk you when you use their WiFi (connected with ISPs.)

And if that’s the case, should I just always use a VPN? And furthermore, shouldn’t you have always used a VPN prior to this anyways?

That’s why I’m confused because I already thought that other businesses were collecting data and our ISPs were already sending our data away, so I’m partially confused about what the real change here with FISA is.

Any clarification and advice is greatly appreciated, thank you.

  • lemmyreader
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    158 months ago

    And if that’s the case, should I just always use a VPN? And furthermore, shouldn’t you have always used a VPN prior to this anyways?

    No idea about these USA specific things but always using a VPN would mean that you need to trust your VPN provider more than your ISP and your government. There is only one commercial VPN provider that I trust and one non commercial one. But then there is Tor, and the slower i2p. You also have to take into account that VPN blocking appears to be increasing. For all kind of shopping on-line and filling in forms for government related things (Things like let’s say e.g. request money support for a wheel chair) I cannot use VPN because they’re blocked or worse : time out. And I found out that lemmy.world likes to block Tor and VPN for posting and uploads. Reading is allowed though. So all in all you have no smooth sailing guaranteed.

    • @[email protected]
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      78 months ago

      How do you figure you need to trust it more than both your ISP and your government? I understand how it gets as much data as your ISP traditionally does, and that means you need to trust it as much as an ISP…

      …But I have a very poor opinion of any ISP that operates on regional monopolies (as is common in the United States), and those are probably linked directly to the NSA a la PRISM anyway. I imagine a VPN, even a mediocre one outside the Eyes countries’ jurisdiction, frustrates this.

    • @jqubed
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      48 months ago

      I can kind of understand VPN and TOR blocking when those are often used by people wanting to post illegal content or engage in illegal activity that could also be harmful to the service that ends up blocking them. Even if it’s an extremely small fraction of the users coming from those services, depending on the action sometimes just one could be enough to make a service decide they’re not worth the potential problems.

      The more cynical part of me might suspect at least some of those problematic actions are coming from people working on behalf of privacy-opposed governments to make it harder for people to use VPN/TOR for legitimate purposes. But there are probably plenty of malcontent trolls happy to watch the world burn that governments don’t need to do that.

      • @[email protected]
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        68 months ago

        I can kind of understand VPN and TOR blocking when those are often used by people wanting to post illegal content or engage in illegal activity that could also be harmful to the service that ends up blocking them.

        I can’t understand that at all. If they are able to identify a real threat, they understand more about their users than their IP address. Blocking IPs is a brutal and lazy way to deal with an imaginary threat. I they are truly that paranoid, they should do what Reddit does: Ban everybody.

        • @[email protected]
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          38 months ago

          DDoS/spam/malware/hacking from tor and/or known VPN providers is not an imaginary threat. Many companies and websites block it entirely. This is not new, imaginary or lazy.

          • @[email protected]
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            18 months ago

            Yes, it is lazy to block all of Tor because a few bad actors come from it.

            That’s like blocking all emails from Nigeria just because some spammera live there.

              • @[email protected]
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                8 months ago

                That’s a few users. Temp block them when they do something malicious. Don’t wholesale block someone just for making a simple GET request from an IP on Tor that hasn’t done anything malicious.