• partial_accumen
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    608 months ago

    Agreed but there is an important win here:

    Isreal Easterday, 23, was arrested in Florida in December 2022 and was found guilty in October on several counts, including felony charges of civil disorder and assaulting officers.

    No more gun ownership for him, nor voting rights (in most states). He’s removed himself from the most important parts of political discourse.

    Something else I’m interested in seeing in the future is the sentence of a second conviction for some of these folks in the future when they inevitably decide to try some kind of insurrection again. What does sentencing look like for a two time insurrectionist?

    • @[email protected]
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      368 months ago

      What does sentencing look like for a two time insurrectionist?

      There is no second failure. I’m pretty sure the pattern goes:

      1. Beer Hall putsch
      2. Light prison sentences and pardons
      3. Political minority take over
      4. Dismantle democracy

      Look for step 3 on Jan 2025.

      • partial_accumen
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        108 months ago

        Do we need to look to Europe for a pattern when we experienced a Civil War right here at home?

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          118 months ago

          No, but they aren’t looking at history for a pattern that matches current events. They are looking for current events to match to the historical pattern they already chose, which is Hitler’s rise to power.

    • @[email protected]
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      88 months ago

      No more gun ownership for him, nor voting rights (in most states). He’s removed himself from the most important parts of political discourse.

      I agree with your sentiment, but neither of those matters to someone who a) doesn’t respect the results of an election and b) is OK with insurrection.

      • partial_accumen
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        148 months ago

        Sure it does. That future traffic stop where they would have gotten away with a misdemeanor speeding ticket now turns into a felony firearms charge in itself.

        I suppose it could be describe as: their footprint for anonymity has drastically shrunk now. Any infraction under the law will be examined in microscopic detail not just by federal officials but even local law enforcement. Any consequence is now magnified 10 fold.

        • @[email protected]
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          18 months ago

          It’s sounds good, but in practice we’ve seen that law enforcement, especially local ones, don’t enforce gun restrictions, if they even know about them.

          The recent mass shooter in Maine could have easily been yellow flagged and had his guns removed, but police didn’t. And now the one deemed responsible for ignoring the warnings it’s running for a sheriff leadership position there.

          And how many of the insurrectionists were actual current and former local law enforcement officers?

    • Billiam
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      88 months ago

      No more gun ownership for him, nor voting rights

      Yeah, I suspect the Venn diagram of “Convicted felons” and “Non-Firearm Owners” has a distressingly small overlap.

    • @[email protected]
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      48 months ago

      Normally I’m against removal of voting rights after a prison term is served, but I’ll gladly make an exception for violent insurrectionists.