In my opinion, the only viable way to go for social networks like this is to be decentralized and run by the people. Anyone who is jumping on one of the corporate run Reddit alternatives is just delaying the deadline a bit. Eventually, Profit motives will turn those to shit as well. To me, federated services are the future.
Also, because it’s slightly harder to use than normal sites, the boomer nazis haven’t overrun Lemmy yet, so currently it just feels really great.
Also, because it’s slightly harder to use than normal sites, the boomer nazis haven’t overrun Lemmy yet, so currently it just feels really great.
😂 This is so true… Being liberal I always second guess myself and I don’t want this to be an echo chamber, I want my beliefs and ideas to be challenged, but Conservatives aren’t arguing policy nuance… They are fucking trying to exterminate people and elect a sociopath…
So what do we do… I hope we get diverse discussion on here, while keeping the Nazis away.
Agreed. I always look at it like this: Politics should be determining the best way to implement and expand human rights, not debate whether we should have them at all.
If only!!! Instead it’s at best a discussion of who deserves it and how much. Can’t say how much I appreciate seeing this comment it sums up my strongest feelings so much more succinctly than I ever could.
Dude idk. I love challenging view points for basic things but the challenging view points I’ve seen here are sketching me out way more than reddit ever did. And I’m just stumbling on them trying to find new communities or from front page. And they aren’t Nazis type things either. Sympathy for other governments. Ignoring or outright forbidding criticism of other governments.
I think it is one thing to disagree and discuss aspects of laws and society and how to fix problems etc but so far I don’t see that here. I still see a same divide it’s just more world focused now and not "are you racist or willing to tolerate racists because reasons " that has been most of US politics on reddit for years now (and imo rightfully so)
Basically be wary of what you see right now. I’m a liberal too and don’t mind challenging my beliefs and often re-evaluate them but here… so far all that has lead me to is being more alarmed because it feels more innocuous and if I was just a little bit less aware of certain things I could feel myself slipping into it. Oh and they present themselves as liberal.
As for American politics sure. I haven’t seen any nazis yet and haven’t yet. I think ive heard plenty enough from the other side over the last 10 years though I would love to hear something new but haven’t yet.
Sorry for the ramble.
Absolutely, I not some anarchist type who hates corporations out of principle but at this point the enshittification of platforms by large corporations has basically proven to be a natural law of the internet.
I’m somewhat in doubt though whether a decentralized platform run by its users can really keep up with all ongoing developments. Let’s say bots become a problem what about bot detection and banning or what about legal regulatory changes? That being said, reddit devs appear utterly incompetent and somehow they manage. Perhaps in the long run some non-profit organization, something like the Wikimedia Foundation is necessary, at least for individual parts of the network.
Maybe someone with more insights into these topics can share their opinion.
In my opinion, the only viable way to go for social networks like this is to be decentralized and run by the people. Anyone who is jumping on one of the corporate run Reddit alternatives is just delaying the deadline a bit. Eventually, Profit motives will turn those to shit as well. To me, federated services are the future.
Also, because it’s slightly harder to use than normal sites, the boomer nazis haven’t overrun Lemmy yet, so currently it just feels really great.
😂 This is so true… Being liberal I always second guess myself and I don’t want this to be an echo chamber, I want my beliefs and ideas to be challenged, but Conservatives aren’t arguing policy nuance… They are fucking trying to exterminate people and elect a sociopath…
So what do we do… I hope we get diverse discussion on here, while keeping the Nazis away.
Agreed. I always look at it like this: Politics should be determining the best way to implement and expand human rights, not debate whether we should have them at all.
If only!!! Instead it’s at best a discussion of who deserves it and how much. Can’t say how much I appreciate seeing this comment it sums up my strongest feelings so much more succinctly than I ever could.
Dude idk. I love challenging view points for basic things but the challenging view points I’ve seen here are sketching me out way more than reddit ever did. And I’m just stumbling on them trying to find new communities or from front page. And they aren’t Nazis type things either. Sympathy for other governments. Ignoring or outright forbidding criticism of other governments.
I think it is one thing to disagree and discuss aspects of laws and society and how to fix problems etc but so far I don’t see that here. I still see a same divide it’s just more world focused now and not "are you racist or willing to tolerate racists because reasons " that has been most of US politics on reddit for years now (and imo rightfully so)
Basically be wary of what you see right now. I’m a liberal too and don’t mind challenging my beliefs and often re-evaluate them but here… so far all that has lead me to is being more alarmed because it feels more innocuous and if I was just a little bit less aware of certain things I could feel myself slipping into it. Oh and they present themselves as liberal.
As for American politics sure. I haven’t seen any nazis yet and haven’t yet. I think ive heard plenty enough from the other side over the last 10 years though I would love to hear something new but haven’t yet. Sorry for the ramble.
Hm, you mean you’re finding like government bootlickers or something? I haven’t strayed too deep into lemmy so far, what I’ve found has been ok.
Definitely have to be weary tho, I’m sure there’s dark places on here too.
There’s still alt-right people on Lemmy, they’re just isolated on exploding.heads due to most other instances defederating from them
A lemmen a day keeps the nazis away
It’s not pretty on either end of the spectrum.
Absolutely, I not some anarchist type who hates corporations out of principle but at this point the enshittification of platforms by large corporations has basically proven to be a natural law of the internet.
I’m somewhat in doubt though whether a decentralized platform run by its users can really keep up with all ongoing developments. Let’s say bots become a problem what about bot detection and banning or what about legal regulatory changes? That being said, reddit devs appear utterly incompetent and somehow they manage. Perhaps in the long run some non-profit organization, something like the Wikimedia Foundation is necessary, at least for individual parts of the network.
Maybe someone with more insights into these topics can share their opinion.
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