Tankies? I don’t see you posting any socdem or anarchist rhetoric, just neoliberal stuff and arguing against socialized housing which is as leftist unity as it gets.
The “human nature” argument is so old Marx literally debunked it before communism was even really a word.
But I understand feeling depressed about everything. The power of capital seems inescapable and it feels like oppression and fascism is human destiny. Perhaps instead of a cold dialectical analysis, may I suggest “Mutual Aid: A Factor in Evolution” by Peter Kropotkin instead? I think it’s a more emotive and soulful piece of writing that may just for a moment restore your faith in the fact that there are at least some people out there who really just want things to be better, not just to be in charge, and that perhaps such a drive exists within all of us to different capacities. I don’t want to run anything, I just want housing security.
Having housing is a worthy goal. But communism is not the way to it. Marx didn’t debunk shit, because all tries for communism have failed because of human nature. Someone will always want what others have. Hell even the damn bible called this out.
Actually read Marx before you call people tankies then.
Someone will always want what others have.
Called trade, a feature of communism, not exploitation, a feature of capitalism.
Also lol “source: even the damn bible” and your, like, vibes about like, ‘human nature’, man (which isn’t a real thing btw, there’s no unifying human experience actually) isn’t very convincing.
I have read Marx, and acting like people who subscribe to his trash aren’t tankies is hilarious. You are a tankie if you do. And please show me where this perfect utopia has occurred in history. There is and always will be exploited people. The real world doesn’t exist in your wannabe utopia, because if it could, it would have happened already. You can do exactly what you’re talking about, but it requires force to get done. They did it in the USSR and people were miserable and still cleaning up that shit even 30 years later. Only people who have never lived through it, think communism is cool.
OoooOOOoooo democratic management of property is sooo tyrannical. The people who would have otherwise inherited a car dealership are going to have to enact a vengeful counterrevolution against the masses.
Sorry for pretending you were engaging in good faith at first.
I am, you’re the one who is being delusional and thinking people inherently will work together to provide for each other without any sort of reward system. You seem to be under the impression that we would need a whole new system of gov. To accomplish this. When it can be done today already but isn’t happening because no one wants to do free labor for each other. You seem to think everyone who has something nowadays hasn’t worked for it and has inherited it…
Lol you have fun with that. You’re going to need a dictator to keep people in line.
I see the temporarily embarrassed millionaires have logged in huh
Tankies gonna tank I guess.
Tankies? I don’t see you posting any socdem or anarchist rhetoric, just neoliberal stuff and arguing against socialized housing which is as leftist unity as it gets.
Why because I know human nature? Most of the people here who are for communism, are the ones who think they’re going to be running everything.
The “human nature” argument is so old Marx literally debunked it before communism was even really a word.
But I understand feeling depressed about everything. The power of capital seems inescapable and it feels like oppression and fascism is human destiny. Perhaps instead of a cold dialectical analysis, may I suggest “Mutual Aid: A Factor in Evolution” by Peter Kropotkin instead? I think it’s a more emotive and soulful piece of writing that may just for a moment restore your faith in the fact that there are at least some people out there who really just want things to be better, not just to be in charge, and that perhaps such a drive exists within all of us to different capacities. I don’t want to run anything, I just want housing security.
Having housing is a worthy goal. But communism is not the way to it. Marx didn’t debunk shit, because all tries for communism have failed because of human nature. Someone will always want what others have. Hell even the damn bible called this out.
Actually read Marx before you call people tankies then.
Called trade, a feature of communism, not exploitation, a feature of capitalism.
Also lol “source: even the damn bible” and your, like, vibes about like, ‘human nature’, man (which isn’t a real thing btw, there’s no unifying human experience actually) isn’t very convincing.
I have read Marx, and acting like people who subscribe to his trash aren’t tankies is hilarious. You are a tankie if you do. And please show me where this perfect utopia has occurred in history. There is and always will be exploited people. The real world doesn’t exist in your wannabe utopia, because if it could, it would have happened already. You can do exactly what you’re talking about, but it requires force to get done. They did it in the USSR and people were miserable and still cleaning up that shit even 30 years later. Only people who have never lived through it, think communism is cool.
OoooOOOoooo democratic management of property is sooo tyrannical. The people who would have otherwise inherited a car dealership are going to have to enact a vengeful counterrevolution against the masses.
Sorry for pretending you were engaging in good faith at first.
I am, you’re the one who is being delusional and thinking people inherently will work together to provide for each other without any sort of reward system. You seem to be under the impression that we would need a whole new system of gov. To accomplish this. When it can be done today already but isn’t happening because no one wants to do free labor for each other. You seem to think everyone who has something nowadays hasn’t worked for it and has inherited it…