Kelly: Is there a downside? I’m thinking of people trying to find a parking place, for starters.

Horowitz: So we see that in places that have actually eliminated parking minimums, that we see fewer people driving at all and having cars and we see vehicle miles traveled decrease because people can get around via other mechanisms.

Well, now, would you look at that?! If we change the incentives, if we stop incentivizing driving by law, people change their behavior. In this case, they can save a ton of money by not needing a car.

  • @grueEnglish
    10•5 months ago

    You have to have the “other mechanisms” for it to work.

    No you don’t. Just fix the zoning and people will figure it out, public transit or not.

    “But we can’t reduce parking until we have transit” is (a) backwards and (b) often a bad-faith excuse given by sprawl-supporters.

    • TigrisMorte
      -1•5 months ago

      Tell that to the folks about to be late for Jury Duty unless they fork over 25 bucks to park.

      • @[email protected]OPEnglish
        8•5 months ago

        Where I live, the trials take place at the county courthouse, and parking for jurors is at the county parking structure across the street. It’s a typical pay-on-exit system, and jurors get a paid ticket to stick in the machine, so there’s no out-of-pocket cost for parking.

        Yet another way we subsidize and encourage driving…

        • TigrisMorte
          1•5 months ago

          and the folks where there isn’t parking plentiful should fuck off? and the fact that this article is about removing parking never even occurred to you?

          • @[email protected]OPEnglish
            2•5 months ago

            Uh, what? This article is about housing, with a bit about how removing parking improves people’s lives. So of course it occurred to me that removing parking is a great thing.

            • TigrisMorte
              1•5 months ago

              oops, “Horowitz: So we see that in places that have actually eliminated parking minimums,”

      • @blurgEnglish
        1•5 months ago

        Some other folks just took the bus.

        • TigrisMorte
          1•5 months ago

          Bus service isn’t viable in most of the US. Taking 3 hours to get the same distance as 15 minutes in a car isn’t a functional option.

          • @RBWellsEnglish
            1•4 months ago

            Ok even here that is a sweeping exaggeration. I can walk a 15 minute city drive in less than 3 hours. Our bus system has been brutally starved by the county but even so, to get to yoga:

            10 minutes driving

            40-45 minutes walking

            25 minutes bus (including the walking a few blocks)

      • Tarquinn2049English
        0•5 months ago

        Sounds like one way to realise they didn’t plan ahead. Find out what your options are, and pick the option you like the best before even leaving home.