• MxM111
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    -737 months ago

    Protesting, no. Disrupting, yes.
    Protesting civilian casualties, no. Supporting Hamas, yes.
    Supporting creation of Palestinian state - no. Supporting destruction of Israeli state (from the reaver to the sea) - yes.
    Unfortunately these protests attracts all kind of people, including those with antisemitism tendencies. So, it is not simple yes/no answer.

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      People alway complain about disruption without somehow noticing that France has 30 hour work weeks, gobs of vacation, free health care, and free school. That came by being disruptive. The people of the United States can’t pull their heads out of their rectums long enough to make it stop being an unlivable shithole.

      • MxM111
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        -337 months ago

        Yeah, right, that’s because protests were disruptive, sure.

        • @stoly
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          Yes. When all the farmers and workers block all the highways until the legislature listens, the people win. The US will never grow up enough to be able to do the people are too far spread out. It allows the police and other right-wing movers to crush things while people like you go “DURR look at them libruls”.

          • MxM111
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            -97 months ago

            This is not the only way and often it is less efficient way. Consider January 6, for example. Trump movement would be much better off it was just non-disruptive peaceful protest.

            • @stoly
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              lol don’t do false equivalency. Demanding rights for the people is not the same as overthrowing a democracy

              • MxM111
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                07 months ago

                The goals are different, but the methods are the same as you advocate. I argue that one method is more acceptable than the other. Don’t be a hypocrite by saying that it is OK to disturb if you support the goal.

                • @stoly
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                  You almost had an argument and then went to a personal attack

                  • MxM111
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                    That was not a personal attack. But what you stated is hypocrisy.

        • @[email protected]
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          It is. I’m sure you want protests so peaceful that you would never even notice they’re happening, therefore you’d never understand their cause, therefore never happening, therefore changing nothing.

          That’s what you want: No change. Ever. Especially if you’re ‘disruptive’ about it.

            • @stoly
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              37 months ago

              no, it’s unclear why we were mentioned here

              • @[email protected]
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                57 months ago

                Until proven otherwise, I choose to believe it is because you are all members of Bohemian Grove together.

                • @stoly
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                  I had to look that one up. Interesting reference.

            • linarphy
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              @WeirdGoesPro
              If you mean the one I mentionned no. I’m on pleroma and like mastodon, you have to tag someone so he/she can read the answer. In “big” thread like there are often on kbin/lemmy, the answer should be readable for everyone who participate in it, hence multiple tags. (I don’t have the habit to remove them)

      • MxM111
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        -247 months ago

        No, I welcome it. Disruptive protesting I am against though.

          • MxM111
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            -57 months ago

            So, you think that there are no such things as non-disruptive protests? What’s your point? Your statement looks smart but there is nothing behind it.

            • @[email protected]
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              Nondisruptive protest is basically an oxymoron. If a protest doesn’t take up space and get in the way of things then it is on the level of hanging a sign on your personal property.

              • MxM111
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                -27 months ago

                Most of the protests at White House and Capitol building are non-disruptive and follow the rules. But looks like you are supporting January 6 type of protests.

    • prole
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      I wonder if I should be happy that lemmy has grown to be large enough for the IDF to consider it a legitimate target for propaganda, or just bummed out that nearly every single thread seems to be infected by this trash.