• @TCB13
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    -67 months ago

    “GNOME Foundation To Focus On Fundraising After Years Running A Deficit”

    So… If I throw half a million at them I’ll get native desktop icons back?

    • @TheGrandNagus
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      7 months ago

      Desktop icons were removed because they’re (at least in the devs’ opinions), a poor solution. They’re always covered as soon as you have a program open, add clutter, and on most machines, the desktop just becomes a dumping ground for rubbish that really shouldn’t be there. I’m sure we’ve all seen systems with all kinds of crap strewn about the user’s desktop.

      Tbh, I can’t say I disagree. I also think they’re a bad solution and that Gnome shouldn’t chase a feature just because people have it on Windows. Gnome makes zero attempt to be a traditional Windows-like desktop. It irks some people, but it’s the devs’ choice and you don’t have to use their software.

      Gnome foundation could have a billion in the bank, they still wouldn’t add that, because it’s not about not being able to afford to implement it, they just don’t want it in their project.

      If you want them, installing an extension will probably take under 10 seconds. Some distros that use Gnome already have it installed out of the box.

      • @[email protected]
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        57 months ago

        This is one of the reason I love GNOME’s philosophy. They don’t dogmatically follow convention and it shapes up the desktop to have a unique workflow that I really miss on other operating systems.

      • @TCB13
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        -57 months ago

        Desktop icons were removed because they’re (at least in the devs’ opinions), a poor solution.

        They were removed because they were never able to make them working properly. It was always an hack and had multiple issues. ANY other OS and DE has desktop icons…

        • @TheGrandNagus
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          47 months ago

          Nope. They had it and removed it, and there are plenty of extensions to add them back if you (for some ungodly reason) want them. They’re not in vanilla Gnome because they don’t want them. And they’re right.

          Practically all other DEs copy Windows, so yeah, of course they’ll have Windows UX elements.

          • @TCB13
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            07 months ago

            and there are plenty of extensions to add them back if you (for some ungodly reason) want them

            All the extensions are plagued by the same issue they had before. Drag and drop from apps never working properly, the icon grid behaves incorrectly sometimes and other cosmetic glitches.

            • @TheGrandNagus
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              Nope. They work fine. Several distros even use them out of the box without issue.

              • @TCB13
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                -27 months ago

                You clearly never used those extensions.

                • @TheGrandNagus
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                  Not for a long time, no. I prefer zero extensions. But back when I did… zero issues.

                  And right now millions of people do and I don’t see widespread issues.

                  I think you’re letting your irrational hatred cloud your judgement…

                  • @TCB13
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                    17 months ago

                    And right now millions of people do and I don’t see widespread issues.

                    It’s not a widespread issue, it’s something with the desktop icon extensions and the original implementation. In both cases the drag and drop from/to apps never worked fine.

        • @[email protected]
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          -17 months ago

          You misunderstand. It was never a mistake. It was always an unfinished project because no one gave a flying…for anything that was of zero value.

          Just because you want to use a tweak that carries too little organization and don’t care for the much more efficient method they replaced it with doesn’t mean you can’t go use gorram any other desktop.

          Bye!

          • @TCB13
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            It was always an unfinished project because no one gave a flying

            No, I didn’t misunderstood, I know it was yet another GNOME unfinished project. Both the native thing and the extensions always had/have the same problems - drag and drop from apps never working properly, the icon grid behaves incorrectly sometimes and other cosmetic glitches.

            for anything that was of zero value.

            Now this is the thing, desktop icons are basic DE functionality and even Apple - the guys that actually know how to design anything - agree they should be there… at least with an option to turn them ON/OFF. The removal of desktop icons was simply the “GNOME vision” being used as an excuse not the fix something that was hard to fix.

              • @TCB13
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                07 months ago

                The funny thing is that you can’t prove me wrong there, apparently not even provide valid arguments, just add a pile of ramblings and insults.

                • @[email protected]
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                  07 months ago

                  Same to you. The difference is that I use GNOME with zero interest in the most antiquated, ugly, distraction, and disorganization written by some who got his written code stolen by a pedophile who conned morons like you into preaching his fraudulent not-his-software mass-thief and delusional solicitation.

    • Possibly linux
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      37 months ago

      If you are wanting a traditional desktop you shouldn’t use gnome. You can arrange your icons on the overview screen.