Hey, I generally agree! It’s impossible to revolutionize a system while sticking to the rules of that system. We can and should fight wherever possible to improve things for our fellow man, no matter what we’re “supposed” to do as defined by the people that stand the most to gain from our apathy.
But that fight includes voting for the lesser harm. Voting for Biden to stop Trump from being president is an entirely valid strategy – and for the people who stand the most to lose, like racial and gender minorities, we cannot ignore harm reduction.
Biden was voted in and you had a failed coup. Did you people go and the streets and demand justice? no. You just got worsening conditions and another genocide. Voting didn’t do anything. It didn’t prevent anything. The decent into fascism is inevitable if people just keep voting because they think voting does something. This delusion needs to be ripped out so that people do anything else.
It’s late at night where I am, so I’m not going to take the time right now to refute you in detail. But if you honestly think we got a worse result than we would have with Trump, you’re either delusional or lying.
The fact that you’re hammering so hard on the idea that voting is useless makes me think it’s the latter. Trolling is a art, and you’re doing it badly.
Voting does do something for fascists. Trump got into office, and now we have an insane Supreme Court that is systematically undoing 100 years of progress.
That is because Trump was elected by people voting.
If it wasn’t Trump it would be someone else. Who the figurehead is doesn’t matter. Long term, simple expecting voting to improve your society has proven to be an abject failure.
Biden is slowly worse, Trump is quickly worse. Liberalism is not about moving leftward, it’s about continuing Capitalist hedgemony.
Slowly worse is still better than quickly worse, as that means there’s more time to find a better solution.
You won’t. This is a 100 year lesson, when will you learn it?
Sorry, I don’t get the reference. 😅
Given Lemmy I assume 1917
Let me make it more clear then. 👏There 👏is 👏no👏solution 👏through 👏voting! Only improvements have happened through unions, protests and riots.
Hey, I generally agree! It’s impossible to revolutionize a system while sticking to the rules of that system. We can and should fight wherever possible to improve things for our fellow man, no matter what we’re “supposed” to do as defined by the people that stand the most to gain from our apathy.
But that fight includes voting for the lesser harm. Voting for Biden to stop Trump from being president is an entirely valid strategy – and for the people who stand the most to lose, like racial and gender minorities, we cannot ignore harm reduction.
We can’t let perfect be the enemy of good.
Biden was voted in and you had a failed coup. Did you people go and the streets and demand justice? no. You just got worsening conditions and another genocide. Voting didn’t do anything. It didn’t prevent anything. The decent into fascism is inevitable if people just keep voting because they think voting does something. This delusion needs to be ripped out so that people do anything else.
It’s late at night where I am, so I’m not going to take the time right now to refute you in detail. But if you honestly think we got a worse result than we would have with Trump, you’re either delusional or lying.
The fact that you’re hammering so hard on the idea that voting is useless makes me think it’s the latter. Trolling is a art, and you’re doing it badly.
It’s a bot
You still got a worse result, you still descend further into fascism. No solution “was found” due to these “delaying tactics” ergo it was useless.
Voting does do something for fascists. Trump got into office, and now we have an insane Supreme Court that is systematically undoing 100 years of progress.
That is because Trump was elected by people voting.
If it wasn’t Trump it would be someone else. Who the figurehead is doesn’t matter. Long term, simple expecting voting to improve your society has proven to be an abject failure.