What happens in November is up to Biden – it will not be the fault of the protest voter if Trump is elected. The questions remain: does the Democratic party fear Trump as much as we do? And does it value its voters enough to shift away from an approach to the onslaught in Gaza that a majority of Democratic voters are against?

  • @MegaUltraChicken
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    And when you use that justification to enable someone who’s going to increase support of that genocide what does that make you? Sure sounds like you’re supporting more genocide than a Biden voter is.

    • @[email protected]
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      It’s like people forgot how many Americans died during the height of the pandemic because T**** is a fucking idiot.

      Anyone who is even remotely near the crosshairs of the Christofascists needs to pull their head out of their ass and vote Democrat this election.

      The Republicunts don’t care if you think “both sides are bad” if you’re LGBTQ+, atheist, non-Christian, think abortion should be freely available, etc.

      Ideals and principles don’t stop bullets or beatings.

    • NoIWontPickAName
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      Hey, how about you just work with us this time and then here in four years we will pretend to care about what you wanna do.

      That seems to be the Democrat playbook anymore

      • @Railing5132
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        Oh suck rocks. There’s one party that does try to pass legislation that helps people, that is better for the environment, better allocations of spending priorities, and generally aren’t fucking cartoon villains.

        And it ain’t the Republicans.

        Being mad that things weren’t done the way we Think They Should Be™ and dismissing the realization that geopolitics is an extremely complex system is childish. Throwing temper tantrums, threatening to take your toys and go home because you didn’t get your way is childish.

        There are many factions to appease in the US electorate, particularly on the left. And while I personally feel like Israel should have been cut off decades ago which may have saved hundreds of thousands of lives, there are a lot more who feel differently. Am I going to hold that against the group that aligns with the majority of my aspirations even if they are stymied by christofacists at every turn? FUCK NO.

          • @Railing5132
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            My guy, do you understand how margins work?!

            • NoIWontPickAName
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              My guy, do you not understand that human lives are more important than anything else he can do?

              He disregards that, and I’m ok with not being on team “Okay with killing children to get the other things we want.”

              That is your team

      • @MegaUltraChicken
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        86 months ago

        Which is exactly why you shouldn’t be just tuning in every 4 years. Local elections, primaries, etc. People only pay attention every 4 years. That’s part of the reason why we’re here.

        • NoIWontPickAName
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          I know the names, office locations, and names of the assistants of my congressional representatives, do you?

          • @MegaUltraChicken
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            36 months ago

            Sounds like you’re perfectly capable of understanding how participation is beneficial. Maybe you could advocate more people participate and the resulting benefits vs cynical bullshit designed to turn people off entirely?

              • @MegaUltraChicken
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                There were no goalposts to move in my statement. What the hell are you talking about?

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                  @[email protected] : that’s a slippery slope moving the goal posts ad hom begging the question false equivalency fallacy.

                  I love when people start throwing in debate bro terms at random without expanding. It tells everything you need to know that you’re talking to a 12 year old.

      • Jackie's Fridge
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        You’re not wrong, but it beats the GOP’s playbook, and it’ll buy us some time to do the actual work of building a viable third party that might have a chance after 20 years of constant support from local elections on up.

        Not voting sends no message other than you’re fine with how things are so you can’t be bothered. Threatening a comfy 2-party system with a solid alternative will make them sweat.