• Cosmic Cleric
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    Of course but they can get all the countries that are not part of NATO, wait a few years and then come back with full strength, new ressources, new alliances and then we can ask ourselfs if there was not a place in time we could have prevented this…

    The theory of sound, but most countries look towards their own self-interest first (unfortunately), so it may be harder to get all the countries together than you state.

    Still it’s something we should try, it’s better to unite around peace and stability beforehand, than after a war.

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      Finally, if we do as you state, is that sacrificing Ukraine in the process?

      No, absolutely not. I’m son of an ukranian father, I want a united west against Putin and if I’m honest with you I think NATO should intervene like they did back in '99 in Kosovo.

      I was deployed in Kosovo in 2007 and the people of Kosovo really appreciated the intervention of NATO, thanked us as soldiers after all these years and I think we have the same situation in Ukraine right now. Russia is commiting a genocide at the People of Ukraine. Russia must be stopped in their degenerated agenda of a new Russian Reich and I also think that a military operation on Ukrainian soil against russian forces would not lead to any stupid decisions by Putin. We “just” need to push them out of the country or at least create a no-fly zone and enforce this with NATO troops.

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        My comment about sacrificing of Ukraine was just based on time delay, if Ukraine could hold out and wait that long for the other countries to get their act together, or not.

        I wish the best for Ukraine.

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        • @avater
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          My comment about sacrificing of Ukraine was just based on time delay, if Ukraine could hold out and wait that long for the other countries to get their act together, or not.

          I actually don’t get where you think I would delay anything. I’m for a operation against Russia and more weapons and supplies for Ukraine right now, better yesterday. Hell, we should have established a NATO enforced no-fly zone right after the first missle pieces crossed the border of poland.

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            I wasn’t speaking about you personally, but just the time it would take to unite non-NATO countries with NATO and present a united front against Russia, when it comes to stopping their aggressions. Apologies for the confusion.

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