“Unlikely Trump will ever be tried for the crimes he committed,” says ex-Judge J. Michael Luttig

It’s not a hard question, or at least it hasn’t been before: Does the United States have a king – one empowered to do as they please without even the pretext of being governed by a law higher than their own word – or does it have a president? Since Donald Trump began claiming he enjoys absolute immunity from prosecution for his efforts to overturn the 2020 election, two courts have issued rulings striking down this purported right, recognizing that one can have a democracy or a dictatorship, but not both.

We cannot accept former President Trump’s claim that a President has unbounded authority to commit crimes that would neutralize the most fundamental check on executive power – the recognition and implementation of election results,” states the unanimous opinion of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, issued this past February, upholding a lower court’s take on the question. “Nor can we sanction his apparent contention that the Executive has carte blanche to violate the rights of individual citizens to vote and have their votes cast.”

You can’t well keep a republic if it’s effectively legal to overthrow it. But at  oral arguments last week, conservative justices on the Supreme Court – which took up the case rather than cosign the February ruling – appeared desperate to make the simple appear complex. Justice Samuel Alito, an appointee of former President George W. Bush, argued that accountability was what would actually lead to lawlessness.

  • @[email protected]
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    7 months ago

    Even if it’s not illegal, and even if Joe Biden was okay with it ethically, politically he’d be turning Trump into a martyr and giving the right a lot of propaganda with which to incite civil war.

    My guess, based on messaging to their base, they’ve already planned for this.

    • @Dkarma
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      187 months ago

      Stop saying this. They’d forget about him in 6 months

      • @[email protected]
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        127 months ago

        If he loses the election, sure. If he ends up in prison, sure. If Biden kills him?

        Nah, they’ll forget about him when Fox News and the rest of the oligarchs decide using him as a martyr is no longer useful for stirring up civil unrest and solidifying their own power.

        • @PM_Your_Nudes_Please
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          47 months ago

          Nah, they’ll forget about him when Fox News and the rest of the oligarchs decide using him as a martyr is no longer useful

          I mean, if the Supreme Court ruled in Trump’s favor, Biden could have assassinated (or heavily implied he was considering assassinating) those oligarchs too. Just assign a seal team to follow Rupert Murdoch around. If Trump has already been assassinated, Murdoch will get the message real quick.

          • Natanael
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            17 months ago

            Unfortunately Murdoch isn’t alone in pushing it, not by far

      • @someguy3
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        17 months ago

        You don’t understand the depth of need to worship something. Neither do I but I’m starting to understand.

      • @[email protected]
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        67 months ago

        They is the GOP. This is the context of the comment I was replying too, “What’s to stop Biden from shooting Trump?”

        The signaling/messaging is the inciting of a civil war, calling Trump’s indictments a witch hunt, the doubt the SC is casting on Trump’s crimes, the 2020 election being ‘stolen’ etc. etc. etc.

        Trump isn’t the end game. He’s the pawn of men who have been plotting this for decades. And the SC are just more pieces in the game.

        The money behind the strategy isn’t attached to Trump. If Biden has him killed, they already have a contingency in place. Or they wouldn’t risk letting the SC open the door in the first place.

          • @Burn_The_Right
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            37 months ago

            Tell that to conservatives. They insist upon it.

            • Natanael
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              27 months ago

              Just wait until the penny finally drops for him. Or was it a Pence?