• recursive_recursion [they/them]
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    368 months ago

    huh

    I wonder what’s the probability that the current EV makers might unite to create an open source standard alternative now that this has happened?

    • @Khanzarate
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      408 months ago

      There are already 2 of them.

      NACS, which is essentially the Tesla charger, was made available to other car manufacturers at no cost already, in 2022. Due to a few reasons, among them the existence of Tesla superchargers already deployed, a lot of companies have adopted this as their charger for newer cars.

      Even if Tesla went down completely, their charger is already open, so nah I don’t expect any changes based on this.

      • @TrueStoryBob
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        118 months ago

        Okay, that makes sense. Was going to ask how proprietary/locked that charger system was as it seems to be the immerging standard.

        • @Khanzarate
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          118 months ago

          Yeah I’m kinda surprised they made it open, to be honest. But they did, and its in a way that can’t be retracted, so nothing depends on their continuing good behavior.

          • @[email protected]
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            58 months ago

            Its a pretty standard business decision, make it open so everyone uses it and because you manufacture the parts they have to go through you.

            This aint Volvo making their three point seat belt open.

            • @Mirshe
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              38 months ago

              Also, I think Tesla saw the way the wind was blowing on standardization. Eventually, the DOT will enforce a standard plug, and if it’s not YOURS, suddenly you have to either remanufacture the cars you’re making, or otherwise refit them to work with the new standard.

              • @[email protected]
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                18 months ago

                In EU the plug is standard for everyone and Tesla users either have a ccs2 plug on their car or they bring an adapter if their car is older

          • @AdrianTheFrog
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            38 months ago

            A requirement for them to receive $7.5 billion in government funding for charger construction was for them to allow other cars to charge on their network, which required opening the standard.

            • @Khanzarate
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              18 months ago

              Ah that explains that nicely. Thanks.

    • Phoenixz
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      -78 months ago

      Open source? Standards?

      What?

      Do that and Lose the chance of earning billions in royalties if WE manage to corner the market?

      None of that will happen unless, say, the European Union will force manufacturers hands.

      • @[email protected]
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        108 months ago

        CCS is already required in Europe, problem is there aren’t nearly as many CCS chargers in the US especially compared to Tesla’s network