Forget the Force and lightsabers – give me more Andor, Imperial security intrigue, and political/spy machinations.
  • Star Wars Disney Plus shows should move away from Jedi-centric stories and explore other aspects of the Star Wars universe
  • Andor is a successful example of a Star Wars show without Jedi, focusing on the Empire’s control and morally gray characters
  • Suggestions for new Star Wars show ideas include Pod Racing, Jawa Storage Wars, and One Man and His Droid, among others
    • slurpyslop
      1•2 months ago

      if where you draw the line on what counts as integral to a narrative is that arbitrary, why not just toss jedi too?

      • @Buddahriffic
        1•2 months ago

        Why not just watch one of the many other options without Jedi?

        The rule of two is hardly integral, anyways. There were 3 for most of the prequel trilogy time frame and Vader took on several apprentices between ep 3 and 4. It was 2 as far as I know during the OT but then the sequels brought it back to 3.

        And Sideous adopted the rule of one (where he can train whoever he wants but not with the intent of replacing him because he planned on living forever using force ghost and clones so he’d always have a body) from the end of ep 1 onwards.

        I just speak for myself, but star wars without force users just isn’t that interesting to me.

        • slurpyslop
          1•2 months ago

          then why not watch one of the many other options with jedi?

      • Cosmic ClericEnglish
        1•2 months ago

        if where you draw the line on what counts as integral to a narrative is that arbitrary, why not just toss jedi too?

        Just because you declare it as arbitrary doesn’t mean it’s actually arbitrary.

        If you ask most people on the street what is the most iconic thing about Star Wars, they would either tell you Force wielders, or Jedi/Sith.

        Anti Commercial-AI license (CC BY-NC-SA 4.0)

        • slurpyslop
          0•2 months ago

          Just because you declare it as arbitrary doesn’t mean it’s actually arbitrary.

          either you’re defining star wars by the films, or you’re picking and choosing what really “counts”

          you’re doing the latter

          • Cosmic ClericEnglish
            1•2 months ago

            Just because you declare it as arbitrary doesn’t mean it’s actually arbitrary.

            either you’re defining star wars by the films, or you’re picking and choosing what really “counts”

            you’re doing the latter

            No, I’ve watched pretty much everything at this point, and have read the EU books to boot (really enjoy some of them).

            And I remember the decades of TV news/videos and publication stories/articles about what makes Star Wars, Star Wars.

            I’d feel confident if you put it up to a vote, that the Force and/or Jedi/Sith is the primary response to the question “What is Star Wars to you?”. Everything else is just copying other stuff and slapping a sci-fi paint on it. Traveller TTRPG like.

            Anti Commercial-AI license (CC BY-NC-SA 4.0)

            • slurpyslop
              0•2 months ago

              the eu is filled with stories that aren’t about jedi or the force

              so yeah, you’re picking and choosing what counts based on your personal vibes