• Thomas
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    776 months ago

    Those would be harvested to train LLMs even without asking first. 😐

    • @sramder
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      456 months ago

      At this point I’m assuming most if not all of these content deals are essentially retroactive. They already scrapped the content and found it useful enough to try and secure future use, or at least exclude competitors.

    • @linearchaos
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      346 months ago

      Honestly? I’m down with that. And when the LLM’s end up pricing themselves out of usefulness, we’ll still have the fediverse version. Having free sites on the net with solid crowd-sourced information is never a bad thing even if other people pick up the data and use it.

      It’s when private sites like Duolingo and Reddit crowd source the information and then slowly crank down the free aspect that we have the problems.

      The Ad sponsored web model is not viable forever.

    • @danc4498
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      276 months ago

      I’d rather the harvesting be open to all than only the company hosting it.

    • mox
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      106 months ago

      Assuming the federated version allowed contributor-chosen licenses (similar to GitHub), any harvesting in violation of the license would be subject to legal action.

      Contrast that with Stack Exchange, where I assume the terms dictated by Stack Exchange deprive contributors of recourse.

    • chameleon
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      76 months ago

      SO already was. Not even harvested as much as handed to them. Periodic data dumps and a general forced commitment to open information were a big part of the reason they won out over other sites that used to compete with them. SO most likely wouldn’t have existed if Experts Exchange didn’t paywall their entire site.

      As with everything else, AI companies believe their training data operates under fair use, so they will discard the CC-SA-4.0 license requirements regardless of whether this deal exists. (And if a court ever finds it’s not fair use, they are so many layers of fucked that this situation won’t even register.)

    • @Rolando
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      26 months ago

      But users and instances would be able to state that they do not want their content commercialized. On StackOverflow you have no control over that.

      • @[email protected]
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        56 months ago

        You can state what you don’t want, but no one will be paying attention. Except maybe the LLM reading your posts…

        • @pivot_root
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          16 months ago

          Yup. Laws are only suggestions until you get caught.