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Dungeon Meshi is a well liked manga, and an adaptation by Studio Trigger is now airing. If you haven’t picked this one up, consider joining us. Both for fun and as a way of contributing to activity on Lemmy.
Episodes are available to stream on Netflix.
Laios and the gang finally gain a new party member! It’s not Falin, and she’s a bit of a pain, but how can they say no to adopting a catgirl in need?
The adventure continues as our heroes delve deeper into the dungeon.
Remember not to spoil anything if you’re a manga reader, but feel free to elaborate on tidbits of lore that may not be coming through in the adaptation.
Maizuru kinda sounds like Vivienne from dragon age… I hate that character lol. I don’t know if I agree with Kubro not being responsible, he did leave Izutsumi behind knowing full well what’ll happen to her. He’s not a sheltered child anymore, he’s an experienced adventurer, he’s seen what the world is like and has enough experience to be able to understand that his slaves are people, not property. A friendly slaver is still a slaver after all.
Anyways, from what I gather the story won’t focus on Shuro or his family much so not much point speculating what he feels or thinks about this subject, or what he might do in the future.
I don’t like him, either. I’m lukewarm. I’m trying to explain why he makes sense, is so interesting, and is still potentially redeemable.
I used the phrase “terminally upper-class” to describe him. As in someone shaped by his surroundings to the extent that only serious interaction with new things will change him.
He’s 26, only recently kicked out into the world on his father’s whim. He’s trained. Not experienced. His recent joining Laios’ party is literally the first adventuring he’s ever done.
He’s a rich kid out on his first outing into the real world.
He already knows that the retainers are people. He grew up playing with them, literally raised by one of them. He started off knowing they were people.
I think he is in a depression and choosing to ignore that fact because it is easier than dealing with the feelings caused by caring about these people, while being powerless to help them. Something he hadn’t yet been forced to acknowledge until learning that the most formative person in his life, is also his dad’s favourite plaything. He knows they are people, and is trying reconcile that with the cards that real life has dealt them. And yes, he is failing. Hard.
Of course, he isn’t really powerless, but going from feeling that way to knowing otherwise, and then acting on it, can take years, no matter how old you are. And I think Maizuru is banking on it happening. Though she herself probably doesn’t realize how far Shuro will want to change things when he finally processes it all.
Still wouldn’t let him have Falin in a million years. She could do so much better.
I see, I assumed he was experienced based on what’s presented in the show so far, thanks for additional info.
I understand how he is the way he is and why that’s interesting but yeah, still don’t like him, maybe my opinion will change in the future.
And yeah, totally agree, Falin is too nice to be with him.
I can totally see how one could get that idea. He’s clearly competent, and extremely skilled with a blade.
But taking a second look, you see the signs. Apparently the man has never had to get real with a friend to get something properly communicated, nor experienced what happens if you don’t eat and sleep.
He has skill, but on the kinds of things you get from experience, he’s a complete beginner. It’s pretty clear Maizuru has been begging him to eat at every opportunity, and unlike when Shuro was a subordinate of Laios, she would have been powerless to stop him making leadership mistake after mistake.
I wonder if he left her behind because he figured she would follow the group and be freed by Marcielle, then he could just claim she probably died in the dungeon while she’s living free
I don’t know, if that were the case it would’ve been shown I think, considering the curse placed on her Shuro would’ve said something about that if he was concerned. Marcille explains that separating souls is kinda impossible even for a mage of her caliber, I don’t think Shuro would’ve assumed that she could do it.
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I’ll just quickly confirm two things explained in the world guide.
The spell Maizuru used to keep track of Izu may not actually be lethal. She used to use the exact same spell to keep Shuro from running off as a child, so it might be that all it does is scare the subject.
Second, Izu wants her curse broken, but it wasn’t placed on her by the Nakamotos. She was already a beast-man when they bought her from a freak show.
It definitely seemed lethal with the way it was using that knife, probably a modified version of the same spell that she used for Shuro, I think.
I see, probably from some dealer who sells “exotic” slaves, yuck (._.)
Not sure. The world guide explicitly mentions it’s a spell that causes a monster to chase you, with a knife. The intended effect is obviously to cause fear of death, but it’s unclear whether it will actually proceed to kill the subject given the chance.
Yeah that definitely sounds like it’s not lethal. Guess izutsumi didn’t know.