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Homes, a maternity hospital, a shopping center, and a metro station were hit as part of the attacks. The attack may have been linked to the destruction of a Russian landing ship in Crimea.
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Every time this happens, Ukraine should counter strike Moscow and St.Petersburg in exactly the same manner.
Murdering civilians is what Russia does. Ukraine achieves nothing by doing the same, yet will have plenty to lose by doing so. Why are you suggesting Ukraine stoop down to their level, which will likely result in the loss of support from its allies and legitimize Putin’s warmongering?
It’s the only thing that Russia will understand.
Ukraine has an oligarch problem (with Putin at the head of it), not a Russia problem. Putin ultimately wants to exploit the resources of Ukraine unimpeded like he does in Russia - and he’s tried puppet governments, and the people fought back, so now he is trying force.
Ukraine killing Russian civilians (who are also victims of Putin’s greed) is not going to deter Putin. Putin cares about one person - himself - and everything else is only a means to enriching and protecting himself and his status. He only cares about Russian civilians to the extent that those civilians living is in his best interests.
So killing random Russian civilians is unlikely to achieve much except depriving some innocent family of some of its member. Targeting Putin and his property, oligarchs and generals is much more likely to make a real difference.
It will bring the war home to Russians. That is the only way to stop Putin.
Because that totally won’t just solidify Putin’s anti-Ukraine propaganda and make the Russian public want to fight even harder. Tell me, if tomorrow Ukraine came along and blew up your home, killing your family, would you want peace? Or would you want them destroyed in revenge?
… Do you honestly, sincerely believe that Putin cares if his people die? After everything he’s done to show otherwise?
Putin certainly doesn’t care, but the people do. Until this war comes home to them, they have no incentive to do anything about it. As you say, Putin will be there forever conducting war until the people stop him. Or until Ukraine can take Moscow. But the west won’t allow that.
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If Ukraine starts bombing them then they sure will have an incentive to do something.
Namely fight against Ukraine
When you bomb someone they blame the people bombing them.
Just ask Netanyahu how well he is getting rid of Hamas by bombing childrens hospitals. Hint: there is more Hamas now.
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Support get any more solid in Russia, so leaving Putin to do as he wants with no real consequence to his supporters is not the way out of this. The only way out of this is if Putin is kicked out by force, and the only way for that to happen is for people to get fed up with this. We are already living in the worst case that you portray. Russians think this is a war that was started by NATO.
How well did that work out during World War 2? Oh, wait… all it did was strengthen the country’s resolve to fight back. Way to legitimize the war further for Russia’s citizens.
Not at all. If anything it would just create more support in Russia. You think Putin would care about a few civilians?
Hitting economic hot spots such as gas or military bases is way more effective
Dunno which clowns downvoted you. All attacking civilians does is make them resolve to destroy whoever attacked them. History has proven that time and time again, but some people are too dense to understand the concept. Military and war production are always valid targets, civilians are not.
The war really can’t have more support than it current does in Russia. Pretty much the whole country is actively or passively supporting it. So this theory has already been soundly debunked. The Russian people care only about their own situation, and until they feel the results of this war, there will be no real opposition. Support can’t go up from here, but with some help it can go down.
If you compare Ukraine to Palestine there have been almost 3 times less civilian deaths, 20 times less child death. That’s not percentages but pure death numbers. Ukraine has 25 times the population size of Palestine.
In percentages israel had killed 50,000% more Palestinian children and about 6000% more Palestinian civilians than Russia has done in Ukraine.
If Russia was really purely targeting densely populated Ukrainian cities, the civilian death count in Ukraine would be looking a whole lot worse.
Targeting civilians has never been an effective way to deter an enemy, it just makes them angrier.
Really? So 14,000 civilians killed and twice as many wounded isn’t good enough for you? Bombing hospitals, schools, shopping malls, markets? And those are just the confirmed numbers from the UN. Real numbers are probably into 6 figures. Yeah, Putin’s just a decent guy spreading merriment I see.
Why? What practical function does it serve?
