Finally tried the official Reddit app. It’s as bad as they say.

    • @[email protected]
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      Also the “actual fucking content” is a mindless repost bot, with a bunch of reposted comments trying to build fake internet points so when the accounts switch to being spam advertising bots they last a little longer.

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        yeah, was gonna say that’s a user issue but it’s in the biggest scabreddit so that’s kind of on the admins too

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          It’s a symptom of the platform altogether. It has karma, which isn’t just ‘some number’, it actually changes how quickly your post hits hot and the front page. This is why people sell accounts.

          I think Lemmy will have a much more organic feel until the major instances realize they can also manipulate posts for cash. However, I feel it will still lack a huge portion of reposts and repost bots

          • Amilo159
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            11 years on Reddit and I didn’t know karma helped get to frontpage faster. I had 660k comment karma…

          • b3nsn0w
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            okay, that i didn’t know. i have come across subreddits with karma requirements and i’m also aware of the logarithmic relation between upvotes and post age (basically for every X amount of time you need 10x the upvotes to stay at the same relevance) but not that account karma actually counted for that one. it can help a lot with comment rate limits though.

          • @Buffalox
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            it (karma) actually changes how quickly your post hits hot and the front page.

            Now I remember I suspected this, before I deleted my account a couple of years ago. I bet that’s contributing to reddit getting worse. It breaks the user response mechanic.

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          By the way, it seems like the comments to that post could be also generated/copy-pasted by other bots… and another set of bots +1 that comments :0/

          • CashewNut 🏴󠁢󠁥󠁧󠁿
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            My 18mth deep depression exacerbated by doom-scrolling Reddit 12hrs per day may have been a fucking bot psyop to make me miserable. Lemmy has been a huge boost to my mood. Feel like I’m waking from a coma since coming here.

            • @[email protected]
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              Wow I’m sorry. My Reddit app just stopped working and the app said “hey what about Lemmy” so now I’m here.

            • Fredselfish
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              Me too feel way better than I did on Reddit. The comments and post don’t piss me off and I enjoy posting on here. Also nice not worrying over karma and if my post our comments are getting attention.

              A weight off my shoulders.

    • @RealNooshieOP
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      My guess is someone who really, really, really wants you to see the advertisements. With a little bit of content on the side.

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        just reminds me to Nolan Sorrento from ready player one

        This is the first of our planned upgrades. Once we can roll back some of Halliday’s ad restrictions, we estimate we can sell up to 80% of an individual’s visual field before inducing seizures

        idk which one is more sad, that reddit is actually doing this or that i had to specify “ready player one” when looking up the exact quote because otherwise it referred me to completely serious marketing articles

        • @Cerbero
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          Hell the screen from Idiocracy rings a fucking bell seeing this.

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            Or for really old-school nerds, Max Headroom. There were the Zik Zak “Blipvert” ads that were hyper-accelerated until they literally made people’s heads explode (like in Scanners).

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    I’m one of the few that never used the third party apps for Reddit during my time there. Only the official app. And even I could tell you that app was miserable. No exaggeration, every third post is a massive ad. Once you’ve scrolled far enough your entire feed becomes ads. You have to close out/refresh to make it go back to normal.

    Wefwef is a glitchy web app that doesn’t let me scroll or post comments sometimes made and maintained by some dude in his basement, and it’s still preferable to the official app of a company seeking a multimillion dollar IPO

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        Ah, good point- I was mostly being hyperbolic to illustrate just how shitty the Reddit app was.

        I think all the previous redditors did the same thing I did when signing up. Lemmy.world sounds the most general, so that’s the instance I used. I’ll give a smaller/more local one a try and see if that improves the performance!

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          I ran into the same issue with Lemmy.World. Tried switching to Beehaw.org first (before I learned that they had defederated from some of the bigger instances) and had my “application” rejected. Appears I didn’t provide good enough reasons for why I wanted to join their particular instance. To me, it just shouldn’t be that serious. Tried sh.it just.works and well, it works!

        • @[email protected]
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          That’s how I wound up on lemm.ee—US hosted, not the biggest one, with admins that seem to give a damn was good enough for me.

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          lemm.ee is really good, fast, mature instance with good admin. Not ad, unfortunately 😁

    • ChamrsDeluxe
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      Try Liftoff it’s what I’ve been using and it’s wonderful. Elegant in its simplicity.

      • @justdoit
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        I’ll check it out, thanks!

        Regardless, I really don’t care much about the glitches or slowdown if it means I don’t have to see a full screen “He Gets Us” ad every two goddamn seconds.

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          I gotta ask, why did you never look at third-party options if you found it so miserable?

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            I’m a strong creature of habit :/

            • Ech
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              Fair enough. Glad you got out!

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        On Liftoff it’s needed to be logged in on every instance (it handles multiple accounts), so I don’t find it convenient even though I admire how polished the interface is.

        • @piSTOLEr
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          Try Memmy. Pretty close to the Apollo experience imo.

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              I believe the app is under review to be placed in the App Store so hopefully will be available to everyone soon.

            • @[email protected]
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              It said that for me too yesterday but then later that day I found a different link that let me join the testflight beta

          • @[email protected]
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            Memmy is my new favorite app. Ticks all the right boxes with some minor annoyances. I’m spending way too much time in it 😄

      • @transmatrix
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        Looks like this is Android only. Us iOS users stuck using wefwef.

        • @Traegs
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          Memmy or mlem on iOS. Try those.

          • @[email protected]
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            The Memmy TestFlight is full at the moment, but should be on the App Store soon. I highly recommend it.

            Mlem and wefwef started good, but imo, they’re not there yet. They both look good, but are still missing a lot of my preferred functionality. Development also seems slow compared to Memmy too, but Memmy’s dev is also a machine pumping out updates every day.

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        On Liftoff it’s needed to be logged in on every instance (it handles multiple accounts), so I don’t find it convenient even though I admire how polished the interface is.

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      not saying wefwef is perfect(i personally can’t use it bc use kbin and not lemmy) but it will probably improve a ton since there are many new people joining lemmy/kbin

      • b3nsn0w
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        this. the corpos have pushed us to apps so much that many of us forgot that web browsers are very much an option.

        lemmy has been the only thing that made me open the regular firefox in a long time. for the most part, i use firefox focus, because everything you wanna stay logged into makes you use an app. no exaggeration there. but lemmy’s web ui actually works because it’s been made by people who just want you to be able to use it, not people who want you to sell you on an app instead that can track you way better than your browser would ever allow.

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        Yeah, it’s got some odd jumps sometimes when upvoting or expanding images but otherwise it works pretty good

      • @jobutupaki
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        I tried out different apps because of the autoloading of new posts that happens on the site. I think that might have been fixed in the update, but now I’m having issues logging into lemmy.world on the site, because if the update. I keep reminding myself it’s early days and things will get smoother soon.

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          The admin has been dealing with memory leak from what I read earlier

    • @Skanky
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      Give Connect a try. Also try Liftoff. Both very good apps.

    • @[email protected]
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      I was using Jerboa but just started using wefwef a couple days ago. I really like the look and feel, plus sorting Top by 1/6/12 hours is dope, since I tend to see a lot of new stuff when I was just doing Top by day.

    • @GoatSynagogue
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      As someone that only used the official app on iOS, I have to disagree. For me every 9 or 10 posts in the feed there was a “promoted” post. Using the compact view they aren’t huge ads like OPs one here, just like any other text post but they say “promoted” so you know it’s an ad. Also never had this “entire feed becomes ads” either.

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        Given how buggy it is, it’s entirely possible. Also, ad targeting exists. He could be a member of specific demographics (age, income, location) being targeted by a lot of ads, thus he ended up seeing a lot of ads.

    • Amilo159
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      You should try Lift Off for Lemmy, it’s really good.

  • r00ty
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    I remember, I was on holiday 4 or 5 years ago. I was sitting at the bar having my morning coffee and browsing reddit and I was getting annoyed that if I went to get a drink from the bar when I came back and turned the screen back on it would reset my position in the comments.

    So, I asked around and was recommended RIF. Not only did it keep comment position, but it was just all round in every single way better.

    No, I couldn’t go back to the official app.

  • @[email protected]
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    Legit thought Lemmy was serving me an advert for a moment there…!

    But yeah, the official R*ddit app is Garbo, they even bought Alien Blue years ago and have just failed to keep pace with Apollo, RIF or BaconReader. This API move is just a monopolisation of their content stream, hugely anti-competition.

    Even if they sorted out their app, rolled back API to free, I’d never go back. Fuck Spez.

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      While spez is indeed a truly horrible piece of work, we should also keep in mind that he wouldn’t be doing this without having some serious backing from shareholders. CEOs are the public figure presented to us for the 2 minutes’ hate but let’s not forget that these decisions are taken in huge boardrooms. So maybe we should say ‘fuck spez et al’ instead of just ‘fuck spez’.

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        Yeah spez is just the figure head, if he got replaced nothing would be resolved.

        It’s not Fuck Spez, it’s Fuck Reddit Inc.

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          Does no one remember the Ellen Pao era

        • @boeman
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          Maybe, but it was spez who lied and gaslighted.

      • @RickMoreanus
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        Just dropping in to say I noticed your 1984 reference, and appreciated it especially in the context of this particular discussion.

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        isnt that what happened to Ellen Pao and how we got Spez? they promoted Pao, she took heat for firing Victoria, then Spez stepped in and “saved the day” (i.e., the board discarded Pao after the ritual sacrifice was complete and put in their new puppet)?

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        I will be real with you here Spider - if you follow anything objectionable up stream you’ll always end up with a handful of ethically and morally bankrupt capitalists. My emphatic “fuck Spez” isn’t just groupthink on this occasion. I appreciate that CEO is a job, and ultimately there’s a level of corporate responsibility - but Spez lied to us, ignored us (the AmA was laughably bad, answered 6 comments disingenuously and then dipped), attempted to defame or gaslight 3rd party Devs, violated data protection laws to preserve the sinking ship and has directed the entire company to basically dig in and starve us out. Users are the only thing bringing value to the platform - and this change is only harming the most productive users.

        He might have the faith of the greed council backing his idiotic decision - but they weren’t the ones pissing off of the top diving board into our swimming pool.

        He could have stood with us, we could have had transparent communication and even if we didn’t get compromise we could have had at least a conversation about why this is happening. but instead of any good faith engagement he decided to tell a bunch of transparent lies and throw a tantrum and then change the rules of moderation to reduce our power to fight for what we wanted.

        Fuck Spez specifically for these reasons.

        Fuck capitalism for everything else.

    • @[email protected]
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      I’m using wefwef and the preview was perfectly cropped it looked like an ad as well. I was relieved it wasn’t.

      • @[email protected]
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        I’m using Jerboa, and it still got me.

        Still figuring out what view mode works best, it’s going to take me a long time to unlearn over a decade of BaconReader…!

  • @CriticalMiss
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    Imagine signing up to Reddit to discuss your gambling problems and then on the first sign on you get hit with this 💀💀

    • @[email protected]
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      You’re browsing /r/stopgambling? Here are some gambling ads for you!

      This sort of thing happened several times over there. I’m making up this example (I think), but there were a few posts on the mod subs begging reddit not to do things like that.

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        If you use any subs related to eating disorders you’ll probably get diet stuff as well

  • @Laxaria
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    Yep since the first party app’s primary goal is to generate revenue (over actually providing a good user experience), it’s packed full of everything to achieve revenue generation:

    • Ads
    • Tons of tracking to figure out how long you viewed something, what you clicked on, and so on to build an advertising profile that can be sold
    • Obtrusive Ads
    • Lots of suggested/recommended stuff to get you to keep your eyeballs on the app longer
    • Ads masquerading as real submissions
    • Paid promotions

    Third party apps don’t have revenue generation as their sole highest priority (if at all), so naturally they strip out all of that stuff which makes for a terrible user experience.

  • @[email protected]
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    What would fit perfectly now is Snapchat-like short vertical videos on repeat. Do it Reddit

    • @RealNooshieOP
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      The problem is that Reddit Shorts is something I could ABSOLUTELY see happening in the near future

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        Kinda already exists. It’s called watch

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            I mean, that’s what a lot of people like, can’t really blame them. And besides, more competition/less revenue to TikTok is always a plus.

          • @MeetInPotatoes
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            The doomscroll is all there is. The good news about that is that anyone can emulate it.

      • @[email protected]
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        They already had RPAN which was basically the livestreaming part of Reddit. It was okay, some fun shitposty streams. I stopped using it after I started using old.reddit + Apollo.

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    Thank you for your sacrifice. If I ever had a hint of an inclination to disregard the common wisdom and try reddit’s official app, now it’s permanently gone.

  • @Crylos
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    At first I thought that was someone posting on lemmy… freaked me out, and I started looking for how to ban the content. 😂😂

    • @LilBagOfBunnies
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      I had nearly the same reaction! Assumed it was Lemmy as well but on a specific app. Hopped in the comments to figure out which one to avoid, very relieved it’s one that I’m already not using.

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      It was the top post in my feed so I thought I had somehow opened the reddit app by accident even though I’ve uninstalled it.

    • esty
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      now what if someone hacked the official reddit app to work on lemmy

  • @lolola
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    Sometimes I get a glimpse of what experiencing the Internet without an ad blocker looks like today and it kinda blows me away.

    • @kaya
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      It’s baffling how most people just rawdogs the internet like that and are absolutely fine with it

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    The only thing I miss about the official app is seeing those ads promoting Christianity and promptly reporting them as hate speech.

    • @whatsarefoogee
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      That doesnt do anything anyway. You alwere kinda wasting your own time.

      • @StealthToad
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        I dunno, if it feels cathartic then maybe it was worth it to them.

    • Alex
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      I didn’t actually see it was from Reddit. I was like WTF, promoted ads here now.

  • Adori
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    My god, I now realize that when I was on reddit it was just super depressing posts about horrible events, on lemmy its actually ppl having fun

    • @null_
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      /r/all was unusable without Apollo letting me filter out 90% of the subs that show up there, all ragebait and reposts.

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      If you didn’t log into the apps, official or third party, r/All was absolutely depressing. Apollo at least gave me the ability to filter r/All when I did check it.

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    It’s simple, really.

    • if you have Reddit app installed, uninstall it first
    • download revanced manager and install the apk. https://revanced.app/
    • find Reddit app’s apk in apkmirror.com and download it
    • open revanced manager and select Patcher -> “select an application” -> storage and select the downloaded Reddit apk.
    • make sure “disable ads” is in the list of selected patches
    • run the patcher, wait until it completed
    • don’t install the resulting apk right away yet. Instead, open the “…” menu on the top right of the screen and backup the patched apk
    • close the revanced manager app and open your file manager. Locate the patched apk you just backed up in the download folder, then install it.

    Note that I haven’t actually tested this with actual Reddit app.

    Edit: oops, replied to a wrong thread

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      Instructions unclear: iPhone now running Windows Subsystem for Android. Plz help.

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      That fixes the ads but still the official reddit app is a huge backstep from the now cutoff apps that made browsing reddit a pleasure. It’s just a rippoff off all the terible algorihtm based Facebook, Twitter and Instagram apps that constantly show me posts that i’ve neither subscribed to nor I am interested to see. It’s a shame.

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        There is an option in revanced manager to patch reddit sync to use your own oauth client id. I just tried it out and the patched reddit sync just crashed when it start loading the frontpage. oh well.

        • @PownyRyda
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          Works perfectly fine for me. Did you use the right APK that’s linked in the Google Docs with the instructions?

          • redcalcium
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            I actually tried with latest version of Sync Dev already installed in my phone. What version are you using? Also, which google docs? I only follow the instruction in revanced manager that said to put the client id string in /data/storage/emulated/0/reddit_client_id_revanced.txt

            • @PownyRyda
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              Here’s the full instructions. Also, you have to uninstall all versions of Sync before you start patching. The guide I linked has everything from creating your own API key to running the patcher.

              • redcalcium
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                Tried using one version behind instead of the most recent version and it works!

    • @Feidhlim
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      Does this work for YouTube?

  • @Dream_state
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    If you really need to access Reddit, I’ve been using libreddit.nl which you can install as an app like wefwef and it’s ad-free :) but long live lemmy