• Riddick3001OP
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    "If detonated, they would not damage the reactors but would create an image of shelling from the Ukrainian side,” the statement on Telegram said. It said the Ukrainian army stood “ready to act under any circumstances”.

    In his nightly video message, Zelenskiy said Russia was planning to “simulate an attack” on the plant. “But in any case, the world sees – and cannot fail to see – that the only source of danger to the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant is Russia. And no one else.”

    Zelenskiy and the Ukrainian military provided no evidence for their assertions"

    • @Pili
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      "If detonated, they would not damage the reactors but would create an image of shelling from the Ukrainian side,” the statement on Telegram said.

      Not gonna lie, that’s pretty smart. Now if Ukraine decides to start shelling the plant, they can just pretend that it’s actually Russia that detonated some charges.

      I think that’s a pattern we’ll start seeing more and more.

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      EDIT: i removed this comment previously because lemmy hiccuped and registered the one about bridge selling twice.

      And despite it being empty, it still recieved 23 downvotes.

      This is how factual discussion with liberals is.

    • @[email protected]
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      Zelenskiy and the Ukrainian military provided no evidence for their assertions

      Judging from the comments, he could probably finance that entire war just by selling bridges to liberals -_-

  • @rustyfish
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    What the fuck is this comment section?!

  • @[email protected]
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    How is the Russian propaganda attempting to frame that? “Ukrainians are Nazis and so we took over their nuclear power plant because we (though we) could. Now they want to destroy it, incurring an immense ecological impact to mostly themselves, because if they can’t have it, better be dead too”?

    • Spzi
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      How is the Russian propaganda attempting to frame that?

      Just see this comment section. “Ukranian artillery did it!”

    • @lycanrising
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      “turns out the ukranians actually liked chernobyl, so much so that they’re probably planning on doing it again!”

    • @[email protected]
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      Don’t underestimate Russias stupidity and sheer incompetence, they probably think the brainwashed masses in russia will believe them. We need a hard line to stop it, but, if russia wants their face kicked in by NATO for real, who am I to deny them. I hope for a crater where the Kremlin stands.

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        I don’t think most of them believe the government media, they just go along with it. And the ones that are against it are already dead/in gulags/sent to Ukraine. That’s what totalitarian states do.

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      Yes, but also “We need a status quo cease fire, clearly things are getting dangerous for everybody, let’s all sit down at the bargaining table right now. Of course, in the meantime we keep our current territory and that is the starting point for negotiation, not any territory you might get in the next few months.”

      It’s calling timeout, no tag backs when you’re losing in tag. Or as putin calls it “escalate to de-escalate”.

    • Riddick3001OP
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      Your guess is as good as mine. But if you have watched Russ TV, they aren’t afraid of saying the most ridiculous things.

      Though according to the article: Renat Karchaa, an adviser to the head of Rosenergoatom, which operates Russia’s nuclear network, said Ukraine planned to drop ammunition laced with nuclear waste transported from another of the country’s five nuclear stations on the plant.

      “Under cover of darkness overnight on 5 July the Ukrainian military will try to attack the Zaporizhzhia station using long-range precision equipment and kamikaze attack drones,” Russian news agencies quoted Karchaa as telling Russian television. He offered no evidence in support of the allegation."

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    We’ve been seeing for well over a year that the only threat to Zaporizhzhia is Russia. Just more shitty orc behavior.

  • @Lyrus
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    These comments… I wasn’t expecting Lemmy to be russian bots just chatting with each other.

    • @Famko
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      I mean, lemmy does have a sizable tankie population at lemmygrad

    • @[email protected]
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      I’m guilty of this as well, but perhaps it’s time to acknowledge that people can have differing opinions and be vocal about them without being bots or trolls.

      I’m sorry for having behaved rude just because some people have a different take on this war. I mean, unless they’re as obvious as the government sponsored bullshit on Twitter where 3 accounts write the same crap in the same thread. 🌚

      I’m also in no way a Putin fan.

  • @CarloDaTeti
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    Posts like this are useful as you can easily find trolls and bots to instantly block.

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    Removed by mod

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    Removed by mod

    • Riddick3001OP
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      You do realise it was Russia who’s been shelling the ZNPP, and it was the Ukrainian staff keeping the plant safe?

      So, No. Russia hasn’t asked for monitoring. It was the IAEE itself.

      " The ZNPP has been controlled by Russian forces since early March. Over the past seven months, its Ukrainian operating staff have worked to prevent a nuclear accident during the current military conflict, in extremely difficult conditions with frequent shelling at the plant or near it."

      Also the IAEE STILL hasn’t been granted full access by plant which has been under Russian military control.

      " The IAEA experts have requested additional access that is necessary to confirm the absence of mines or explosives. In particular, access to the rooftops of reactor units 3 and 4 is essential, as well as access to parts of the turbine halls and some parts of the cooling system at the plant."

    • @LordOfTheChia
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      From your link:

      VIENNA, July 5 (Reuters) - Experts from the U.N. nuclear watchdog based at the Russian-held Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant in Ukraine have yet to observe any indications of mines or explosives at the plant, but they need more access to be sure

  • @[email protected]
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    Russia has been making the same claims against Ukraine since at least november 2022 in front of the UN.

    Such an attack would benefit Ukraine since it’s more likely to cause NATO to get involved. Don’t forget that.

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      Lol. You honestly think NATO countries wouldn’t check the story before comitting to an open conflict they don’t want to be in? That the people in all of Europe wouldn’t want to know who actually blew up the plant and spewed radioactivity over their lands? That everyone’s just gonna be fine shelling out ANOTHER couple of billions to clean up Chernobyl 2.0?

      If this ever actually happens (Big IF) anyone who lies about it is gonna be completely fucked when the truth inevitably comes out.

      Noone benefits from this.

  • @Raphael
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    We need a more trustworthy source. After Zelensky destroyed his own dam I don’t believe a word he says.

  • Bloops
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    Hopefully this just ends up being another nothingburger like last time there was talk about a Ukrainian dirty bomb several months ago.

    • hh93
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      You mean like when Ukraine claimed Russia put explosives on that dam that now is gone?

      • Bloops
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        No I mean when there was talk about a dirty bomb several months ago. The dam wasn’t a nothingburger, hence why I didn’t reference it??

    • Bloops
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      Well, well, well. It looks like it was indeed a nothingburger. That’s a relief.

    • Bo7a
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      And thanks to blocklists we won’t have to see you ever again :)