Context: Even though Chromium has native support for AVIF, a very nice image format, Microsoft goes out of their way to remove it from Edge, which is a chromium fork. Jpeg XL (JXL) (not to be confused with Jpeg (JPG) or Jpeg 2000 (jpg2k) ) is another nice image format, which, IIRC, is only supported in Firefox.

  • @renzevOP
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    2110 months ago

    Discussion thread: What’s your favourite image format and why?

    • /home/pineapplelover
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      Png because it’s lossless and pretty universal. Svg is pretty cool because it’s vectorized but it’s also a pain to make good svg.

      • @aeronmelon
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        Still waiting for animated PNG. It would make it the perfect universal compressed image format.

        • @mlg
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          610 months ago

          Animated PNG actually does exist but it has poor support coverage.

          I remember using it to make whatsapp animated stickers

          • @[email protected]
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            All major browsers (98% of all users) have supported APNG since at least 2020

            Firefox: 2008.
            Safari: 2014.
            Chrome: 2017.
            Edge: 2020.

            https://caniuse.com/apng

            I believe the photo app in Win 10 (and maybe 11) still doesn’t support it but that shouldn’t hinder web devs.

    • TxzK
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      WebP cause small size, can be transparent, can be animated, can use either loseless and lossy compression. Also it pisses of many people which is funny to me.

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          I’'m working on a website right now, trying to choose which image format to use. I think I’m gonna store both webp and AVIF versions on the server, and have Javascript figure out which format is best for the browser automatically (for images that have to be loaded with Javascript anyway).If I have time, I might even try detecting if JXL is supported via third-party extension and using that too.

            • @renzevOP
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              310 months ago

              Thanks for the info! I was already suspecting that this could be done without JS, just didn’t know how.

      • @renzevOP
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        610 months ago

        The pissing people off part is why I post all my memes in webp haha

    • @aeharding
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      610 months ago

      JXL. Better compression in my testing and better quality. Also very flexible format with JPEG compatibility

      • @renzevOP
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        110 months ago

        Do you write postscript by hand? I once got the change to take a postscript programming class, but sadly I didn’t (I wish I did tho). How does it compare with SVG? I know SVG has a lot of limitations (for example, you can’t change the color of a shape filled with a pattern), so I guess eps’ turing completeness lets you overcome things like that, since you can just program in whatever functionality you need?

    • @JigglySackles
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      Any of them that don’t have drm schemes in them.

    • @[email protected]
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      Now BC7 because i’m playing with graphics programming. Usually… png i guess because it’s simple.

  • @mvirts
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    1610 months ago

    Let’s rename JXL to GPEJ to give GIF pronunciation a run for its money

    • @renzevOP
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      When it comes to pronunciations of obscure computer acronyms, my favourite is btrfs (the filesystem), because I’ve never seen anyone advocate for any specific pronunciation, not even the devs/official documentation. Bee Tree Eff Ess? Bee Tee Arr Eff Ess? Butter Eff Ess? Better Eff Ess? Whatever bloats your goat!

  • rigatti
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    1510 months ago

    I was excited for JXL… is it dead dead?

    • @swooosh
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      N. Just google removed it from chromium. I can view jxl on android, so it’s not dead. And samsung S24 (iirc) will use jxl to save pictures

  • Wistful
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    What would it take for JXL to become supported and more widespread? Who even uses it currently?

    • @[email protected]
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      Someone needs to make a website that uses jxl heavily then contact a journalist about a weird website they found that opens 10x faster in safari vs chrome

      • @renzevOP
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        310 months ago

        I said it in another comment, but I’m actually working on a website right now, which happens to lazy-load a lot of images with Javascript. I think I’ll store all the images in webp, avif, and JXL formats, and have the javascript code automatically load the one which is supported by the browser. Hopefully if it takes off, it can promote support for modern image formats!

    • VBB
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      110 months ago

      WebKit has support for it (used in Safari and Epiphany). Last time I checked firefox didn’t have support. There is an issue in chromium bug tracker to add support for jxl where Adobe, Intel, Krita and probably others representatives said that they are insterested in the format. But this issue was closed because “no big companies are interested in jxl”.

  • @blackfire
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    610 months ago

    Isnt it Apple who was pushing jpegxl?

    • @[email protected]
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      JPEG XL has gone through waxing and waning support from each of the major browsers, but Safari is the only one to support it by default.

  • @[email protected]
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    Safari is the only browser that supports Jpeg XL. Firefox does support it if you enable a flag but IIRC from bugzilla their implementation is currently not great.

    If a browser feature needs to be enabled with a flag it’s not really supported since an extremely tiny portion of users will be able to use it, and it’s often buggy.

    https://caniuse.com/jpegxl

  • @swooosh
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    Since when can apple play it?