• Codex
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    10710 months ago

    Make sure to commit all fraud by US Post mail. This ensures your trial will be in Federal Court, which is much busier than your state’s court, ensuring your case never gets heard!

    • @BonesOfTheMoonOPM
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      3910 months ago

      This according to my lawyer friend carries a maximum punishment of a million dollar fine and 30 years in prison.

      • @edgemaster72
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        10 months ago

        Just send a bunch of nonsense to the Governor (or President I guess since we’re talking about making a federal case) to get their letterhead then create a fake pardon for yourself

        • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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          610 months ago

          Yeah, corporations and presidents are both known for personally responding through snail mail on official letterhead when sent gibberish.

      • @[email protected]
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        1810 months ago

        Easy just do this trick after you gotten more than 2 million in loans. Spend 30 years in prison and retire

    • AFK BRB Chocolate
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      810 months ago

      Wait, I’m not sure, does the federal court flag have a fringe on it?

      • @[email protected]
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        810 months ago

        GOTCHA! I, TheFriar, a Man, do hereby and solemnly state, forthwith and hereto, that I do declare and state that I, TheFriar, a Man, rescind and relinquish and reconfiscate my citizenship to THE UNIRED STATES, a corporation, because I, TheFriar, A Man, humbly do not recognize nor honor the code of said Corporation. Heretofore.

        • AFK BRB Chocolate
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          310 months ago

          Well shit, I guess there’s nothing we can do. We’ll have to let you off the hook for pretty much everything.

    • @Alexstarfire
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      19 months ago

      Idk, I’ve been waiting on a date for my small claims case for over a year. I’ve called about it but just get told it’ll eventually get scheduled. I’ve given up hope.

  • mommykink
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    6110 months ago

    This is one of the few times I’m rooting for the sovcit. Fuck credit-predators and this system can actually work

    • @BonesOfTheMoonOPM
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      2110 months ago

      I think sovcit is a bit optimistic though.

    • @stoly
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      1310 months ago

      Fortunately there has been much progress over the past 20 years and surely more to come. The fact that our grandparents/great grandparents put in a system to punish the poor just speaks to how shitty our history is.

  • @TropicalDingdong
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    2610 months ago

    I mean, weird culty citizens movement or not, most police and justice departments are incredibly hesitant to publish properly gathered crime statistics, for the reason that the vast majority of it is effective and goes without punishment.

    You should not commit credit card fraud. However, the abov is the first few stops of social engineering. Adjust a couple emails and phone numbers. Get a non government PO boxin the right zip code. Etc etc … and you could easily engineer their CRM to have all the right contact information you’ll need to to when they go to verify something.

    Humans are belief machines. We rely on how thing sound and feel, not if they are upheld by data or evidence. Managing those beliefs to get to specific outcomes is social engineering.

    • @stoly
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      1010 months ago

      Yep. Clearance rates are very low, the police actually do not do a good job at solving crimes. Their real value is in deterrent, but that only works when you have someone in a parked car outside a building.

      • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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        810 months ago

        The police don’t even attempt to solve crimes unless a lot of money was stolen from important people, or someone was murdered. All those TV shows and movies of the police performing amazing detective work to get to the bottom of a crime are bullshit. The police file a report, drop the file in the trash, and go to lunch.

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    2510 months ago

    I don’t understand how this is supposed to work. I get the intent, but whatever. Guess it’s no crazier than quoting maritime law.

  • @stoly
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    1610 months ago

    In some cases, this may actually work, but it’s only going to be for low-level debt (i.e. low $$) that nobody is really too worried about. If it’s anything worth anyone’s time, they will pay attention and you will go down for fraud.

    • HubertManne
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      410 months ago

      yeah you can simply contest debt and they will remove it if the company does not respond to them timely.

      • @stoly
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        810 months ago

        They say that the first thing you should do anytime you receive a collection request is to dispute it. If they can’t prove the debt, it just goes away. You just don’t need to commit fraud to do that.

      • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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        That’s not always true. I spotted a legitimate error on my report and submitted adequate evidence to prove it is an error, and they just marked it as contested. They didn’t even contact me afterwards. It’s bullshit.

        • HubertManne
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          010 months ago

          That is bs. unless the other side provided equal evidence it should be removed.