If Sweden had found Russia at fault, you’d think they would be shouting it from the rooftops.
Why do you think they would do that?
Because rooftop shouting is fun!!
The question of jurisdiction was more complicated than where the crime had been committed.
So… The US did it.
Ukraine actually did it, but there’s no chance they’d do that without the US giving the go-ahead.
From what I have heard it is actually really hard to do, and only a few countries have the capabilities and equipment.
wait why are we blowing up fkn pipelines now exactly?
The war hawks answer would be so that we can economically separate russia-germany so that germany is more willing to go against russia. If Germany is dependent on gas from Russia they are less willing to risk their relationship.
At the time, Germany was on the fence about sanctions because they were getting gas via the Nordstream from Russia and didn’t want to endanger that. Sudden, completely unexpected lack of gas from Russia = no impediment to backing sanctions. And that’s how it turned out.
Sweden Closes Investigation of Pipeline Blasts, but Stays Silent on Cause
Because it’s Cthulhu that did it.
Which in turn was unleashed by BP. (They’re sorry, tho)
Yeah let’s not reflect or even think about the fact that Germanys economy has possibly been torpedoed with the go-ahead from, or directly by, its biggest ally.
I knew it! Aliens!
Why is is so hard to believe that the US blew up the pipeline? They have the capability, the motivation, and they will face absolutely no consequences from doing it. Like how is this even a question?
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Man I almost want to go back to reddit and smack every stupid user who exclaimed it was Russia the moment it happened with insane levels of an alibi.
“uM AKshUlLy, THeY blEw iT uP So tHeRd be OnLy oNe PiPElInE fOr eURoPe”
It was a Ukrainian mission directed by the USA. Before you downvote do even a basic amount of research. There was a great finding recently that tracked down the who and the how. A chartered yacht with 6 Ukrainian special forces planted the charges and it’s not an unknown anymore. They used fake passports, left out of Rostock Germany, and Germany traced it. They found the people via camera and entry. They found the yacht itself still with explosive residue on it.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
After investigators delved into a series of undersea explosions that blew apart the Nord Stream natural gas pipelines linking Russia to Western Europe in fall 2022, intelligence agencies came to a general agreement: The evidence pointed toward pro-Ukraine forces, even if the question of who might have been directing them remained a mystery.
It even refused to team up with its closest neighbors, Denmark and Germany, a sign of how nervous the issue was making officials in Stockholm at a moment when it is still maneuvering for acceptance into the NATO military alliance.
In an email Wednesday, Mr. Ljungquvist, the national security prosecutor who made the decision to close Sweden’s investigation, said the question of jurisdiction was more complicated than where the crime had been committed.
Mr. Ljungqvist declined to say more, citing continued confidentiality in the case, which Sweden has the ability to revive, he said, as well as cooperation with German authorities in their investigation into the Nord Stream sabotage.
“The Swedish armed forces continue to monitor the situation in the Baltic and other areas near Sweden,’’ Mr. Adamsson added on Wednesday, “in close cooperation with our international partners, soon allied, we hope.”
The crime scene, along the floor of the Baltic Sea, provided little concrete evidence, something the Swedish authorities acknowledged in the early months of the investigation even as they closely guarded their inquiry.
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They are silent because it was Ukraine acting on behalf of the US
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In terms of getting us hooked off that Russian gas it was a good thing, whoever did this.
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ok 👍
Why does it make more sense that Russia blew up the pipeline?
To create chaos between their enemies, to create the feeling under civilians that their resources may dry up and let’s not forget, because they’re fucking evil.
They wouldn’t give up the income from gas. Your theory doesn’t make sense. They would either raise prices, close pipeline or invent some other excuse. Note that Russia is still merrily selling gas to Europe.
but not on the scale it has before and germany for example is free of russian gas. They are bleeding money
But that wouldn’t be because Russia wanted it. And I’m not sure that Germany is really free from Russian gas, it’s a mess, probably they are still getting some but at much higher cost. https://energyandcleanair.org/december-2023-monthly-analysis-on-russian-fossil-fuel-exports-and-sanctions/
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They could have done all that by shutting the valves on their end. Or ‘discovering’ a crack that needs an, uh, six month-long maintanence. The closing of the pipe may be a good thing, but it’s pretty clear who did it.
Oh, i see. Thanks.
But those sweet, sweet gas money!
