• @[email protected]OP
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    329 months ago

    Go check the UnitedKingdom subreddit if you want to see the celebratory bloodlust of the average Briton, the blatant alternative truths and so on, and this is of the young progressive sort, the average 40+ boomeroid probably no longer bothers with that mask even.

    I am so tired. I’ve fought the good fight for so long for my people but in the end it’s like it was all pointless.

    • 🦄🦄🦄
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      159 months ago

      Go check the UnitedKingdom subreddit if you want to see the celebratory bloodlust of the average Briton

      urgh, remind me to never follow that advise again. What a bunch of hateful, clueless assholes.

      • @AlpacaChariot
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        29 months ago

        Are they real though, or bots? It’s increasingly difficult to tell these days.

        • @[email protected]OP
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          19 months ago

          As much as I’d like to think they are all Ivans and Vlads from Kamchatka doing this for 50 kopecks, I feel like there can’t be that many and with such authenticity, dedicated so hard to that sub.

          Like how important is demoralising the already inactive disengaged progresvives really to political power and who has so much time and resources?

          • @AlpacaChariot
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            29 months ago

            The one thing AI LLMs seem to be actually quite good at is generating lots of quite ‘real’/‘genuine’ sounding comments and replies, so it really could be bots. It probably doesn’t actually take that much effort either in relative terms, if you decide you want to AstroTurf an online space.

            It’s a shame because it could basically kill discussion on the internet as we know it. It’s mad to think it, but in a few years we could be telling younger generations of a time when we wrote words to each other online and it was reasonable to assume that we were talking to a real person…

    • @STOMPYI
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      As MLK stated "The moral arc of the universe is long but bends towards justice " stay fighting for good!

    • @thehatfox
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      There’s been a noticeable shift on r/UnitedKingdom since around the time of the Reddit protests. I no longer participate there but I’ve seen quite a bit of extra unpleasantness the few times of taken a curious look at it.

      Not that it was ever a great place to discuss trans issues, but the nastiness seems to be spreading to all manner of topics now.

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        There may have been an organized effort by the far right to take over various national subreddits. It gives the impression that their views are overwhelmingly popular in the country, when really they’re not. The subreddit /r/Canada also got dominated by the far right, which led to the creation of /r/onguardforthee. At least one of the mods of /r/Canada was shown to be an active neo-Nazi, and another declared himself a white supremacist. There is still too much support for the far right in Canada (and we’re looking at a big lurch to the right in the next election), but it’s not as dominant as you’d think from that subreddit.

        • Flax
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          Tbf, leftists did this also. r/northernireland had a big bunch of American IRA larpers who never set foot in the country, and edgy youth from the Republic.

      • @DrCake
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        59 months ago

        There’s always been that undercurrent of hate. The first few comments on any immigration story was enough to see that.

        But yeah, I think the demographic did shift a bit in the last year or so

    • @[email protected]
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      59 months ago

      Haven’t they always been like that?

      r/GreenAndPleasant split off from them for a reason

  • TotallyNotSpez
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    A big FUCK YOU to all Tories, Terfs and similar asshats.

    Edit: I’ll donate money to Gender GP even harder from now on.

  • @UncleGrandPa
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    79 months ago

    All 83 of them?

    Really that is the total for the entire country. Ya, it’s a “serious” problem. … Sure

    • Flax
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      19 months ago

      I think they were hoping to make more

  • @[email protected]
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    69 months ago

    I’m not particularly well educated on the subject but according to the BBC:

    Fewer than 100 young people in England are currently prescribed puberty blockers by the NHS. They will all able to continue their treatment.

    So why such a big fuss?

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        Can puberty blocking be reversed at a later date?

        Or can blocked puberty be reverted later?

        I could agree with a ban whole heatedly if blocking can’t be reversed and blocked cannot be reverted, but I would likely to oppose a ban it if blocking can be reversed and blocked could be reverted.

        Gets a little fuzzy if it’s one or the other though.

        Wouldn’t want someone to miss their only chance to block puberty, but also wouldn’t want someone to make a permanent choice at 13-14 which can’t be reversed if they want to later on.

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          69 months ago

          You just stop taking them, and your body will start going through puberty. Like the other response said, they’re used for cis children as well when they start too early for their body to be able to handle. As with any medicine there can be side effects.

        • @[email protected]
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          49 months ago

          When you stop taking them you go through puberty like normal. The idea is to protect trans kids from the irreversible effects of going through the wrong puberty, but not cause any irreversible effects if they’re one of the <1% that later turns out to not be trans.

        • @Gamoc
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          You can’t get any trans care that isn’t reversible until you’re an adult who can legally consent to it. Puberty blockers are reversible, you just stop taking them and go through puberty. This change is completely anti-scientific and pro-bigotry. It’s indefensible.

        • @[email protected]
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          29 months ago

          When you stop taking them puberty continues as normal.

          We’ve been using them for a long time on people who start puberty too early. And know they are effective and safe.

    • @[email protected]
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      29 months ago

      Complete miss characterisation. It is lack of data the NHS is arguing with. Not scientific evidence.

      The article is bluntly stating that the NHS has made this choice because no evidence of the long term safty exists. Not because scientists say it is unsafe.

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    Good, there’s not enough scientific evidence to claim it’s safe for children, hence the ban…

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      Given the drug has been used for almost 40 years. Lack of evidence it is safe. Is just a political way of saying we have no evidence it is dangerous.

      After 40 years of clinical use. With many patients benifiting from its application. And the medications passing the medical trials standards of the 1980s. Pretty much any other medication the NHS has banned or restricted use of. Was because of new evidence. Not the lack of it. I say pretty much. Because cost and politics has been used in the past. The NHS was just more open about the reasons.

      Restricting a long used medicine with a lack of evidence. Is a political not a scientific choice.

    • TotallyNotSpez
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      59 months ago

      Funny that international studies show otherwise…

      Welcome to my blocked list.

    • @steeznson
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      I believe there are exceptions to the ban in the case of studies that are actively taking place. This isn’t a complete halt on their use; just the general prescription has been paused.

      The side effects like the effects on bone density and brain development do seem concerning and merit more investigation.

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        -29 months ago

        Yes, stated as a recommendation until supporting evidence of its benefits can be found. The thing is that the side effects as you mentioned are well known and can unediably be linked to the therapy, thus warranting caution.