• @Sanctus
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    193 months ago

    You know what? Fuck this election. We should be demanding better, moral candidates. I can’t believe the choice is Wannabe Dictator/Guinness World Record Holder of Fraud Cases vs a zionist that is actively enabling genocide.

    Fucken pack it up this is a failure.

      • @Sanctus
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        63 months ago

        I’m sure it is if you’re a rube, I won’t vote for Trump. But we have a lot to do after this election.

  • Milksteaks [he/him]
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    103 months ago

    If I was Biden I’d be shittin my britches right about now. He only won WI by 20k votes in 2020. This along with Michigans 100k uncommitted votes could see another Trump presidency. If he doesnt stop sending arms and aid to Israel and start sanctioning them instead swing states are most likely going Trump

    • @[email protected]
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      53 months ago

      Honestly, I get the sentiment. But shouldn’t we as a country be shitting our britches?

      I’m sure Biden will be disappointed if he loses the election, but a Trump win has much more implication for the rest of us than it does Biden.

    • @[email protected]
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      13 months ago

      70,000 people voted for Haley, even though she’s dropped out weeks ago.

      That’s 20k more than the protest voters against Biden.

      It’s still a concern, and Isreal still needs to stop, but some percentage of these both these protest voters are going to vote very differently in the general. It’s gonna be close, but not voting for Biden will fuck up Gaza and the rest of our world far more than voting for him.

  • John Richard
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    03 months ago

    Is there redemption after funding and enabling genocide? Like, after enabling it so long… shouldn’t the message me something more strong?

    • @rockSlayer
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      103 months ago

      What do you think should be done then?

      • @APassenger
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        Well… posting yet another article about Biden not being good enough (and we have peoe who do it like it’s their job) isn’t helping.

        It’s just not. It’s way single minded and not only is it not helping, it’s hurting.

        We have options. You have options. Complaining…? On lemmy??!? No. That’s not changing Biden’s mind. Its reaching all 100 people who see these things.

        And it’s not our job to tell people with the maturity dwarfed by juveniles how the system works.

        This is not organizing. This is just draining and wasting energy. Use your energy for communication. Whinging like all that we see here? Isn’t effective communication.

        But articles are what we must post. Not get out the vote, not how to move things left… We post click bait anger inducing, energy draining things.

        We need something different.

        • @rockSlayer
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          83 months ago

          I’m an organizer. I want to be in an online leftist space where I can support the causes I care about in a casual way. I want to read these articles in my spare time, so I can be a better organizer when I move to my next campaign. No one is seriously organizing on lemmy.

          Not only that, but the point of these actions are to pressure the status quo. It’s hard to do that without getting published. If lemmy is too small to affect change positively, then how is it so big that it will affect change negatively?

          • @APassenger
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            -43 months ago

            How many articles stating the same thing will we need to push so you feel casually informed?

            Where are the articles and links to what’s being done to change things in a way that still ensures we don’t slip into Trump ville?

            Because those are Not being posted.

            I want the country to move basically about to where Sanders is. But I don’t see any of that in these articles.

            I’ll note that one of the left-most Congress people, Sanders, is clear we should vote Biden in the general, despite his failings.

              • @APassenger
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                -43 months ago

                No. The people who have all that grievance and time… They can do that as a show that they’re trying to be part of the solution.

                Or… They can keep actively working to suppress voter turn out or enthusiasm for other genuinely good candidates. Because all they’re pushing is negative press.

                • @Passerby6497
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                  53 months ago

                  You clearly don’t care enough about it if you’re only willing to complain and not be the change you expect out of others.

                  The people who have all that grievance and time… They can do that as a show that they’re trying to be part of the solution.

                  It probably takes less to post an article that supports the point you want to make than it does to get into whiney slap fights in the comments, and that’s definitely going to be more productive too.