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I’m starting to get the impression that israel is up to no good at all.
It’s cool.
America is the big brother shielding them from consequence.
Israel will be just fine.
It is beyond obscene and makes Meta complicit in Israel’s killings of “pre-crime” targets and their families, in violation of International Humanitarian Law and Meta’s publicly stated commitment to human rights.
I mean if true - and it likely is - then this would be the third genocide Meta is implicated in, by my count, (Rohingya, Tigray) and there may be others they haven’t been called out for yet.
yeah but like I still use Facebook to staybin touch with people, and its super convenient despite the unusable enshittification, so I’m gonna need at least five genocides to stop.
Facebook: hold my beer
they would never do a fourth genocide.
Number 6 will shock you.
nah. nah I’m kind of expecting it tbh. got my affairs mostly… not in order, but wrapped up.
Israel aimed to spark a regional conflict to avoid facing genocide allegations. However, Iran didn’t buy into their PR tactics.
that’s is basically Israel strategy. Don’t know on what ground you’re getting downvoted.
Israel wants to involve the US into the conflict, to create the perceptive diversion when it moves into Rafah and continue towards their goals. However, Iran took the necessary steps, e.g. informing the US in advance their course of actions, so that the US won’t be forced into the conflict.
That’s basically what happened. The US keep themselves out, Iran gets to retaliate while keeping a distance from the US, and Israel will be on their own should it moves forward to Rafah.
Exactly. I’m waiting for the ICJ ruling that will hold Israel and its allies accountable for genocide. Israel was never about Jews. It’s funny Jews standing for Palestine get called antisemitic pathetic!
yes but see if youre anti genocide that’s antisemitic. yes maybe youre a rabbi, but maybe you should just be a little less self hating, you know? I bet youve never even tasted a decent bagel.
nothing makes Iran and Hezbollah look reasonable quite like hezbarah does.
yeah, Iran being the fucking heroes here. generally fuck that government, but they’re the only adults in the extremely apocalyptic room. at least adolescents who know how to babysit?
What group currently calling Jihad against Israel has not openly recieved funding from the Iranian state, going back to 1992?
The answer is none. Every group calling for Jihad and Jewish genocide in the region has received monetary support from Iran.
Why is that?
Because Israel and Iran are enemies and have been in a state of semi-war for ages? And because Israel is an Apartheid state whose raison d’etre is ethnic cleansing?
yeah, fuck the government of Iran generally, but I support any decision they make here. anyone can get points for stopping genocide and killing Nazis. literally anyone. even Nazis! that has happened before!
Someone needs to read a little history
So Iran can fund jihad against Judaism itself, and it’s Israel’s fault?
Literally yes. The state of anti-Semitism in the middle east is a direct
causeresult of Israeli Apartheid.Edit.
And Iran is not an apartheid state?
Uh yes? Iran is oppressive as fuck, but yeah they’re not an Apartheid state, and hell even if they were. At least Iranian women get citizenship and the right to a fair-ish trial.
Bro gtfo, kurds have suffered under Iranian regime for more than a century, israel palestine conflict doesn’t even come close.
Yeah you get the fair trail as long as your aren’t kurd.
You think hatred of Jews among Muslims started after the creation of Israel?
That is ahistorical nonsense, and you know it.
Do you wish to try again?
You think hatred of Jews among Muslims started after the creation of Israel?
Not after the creation of Israel, after Zionists started trying to take Palestine in 1917.
Conveniently ignoring about a thousand years of history there, little buddy.
Conveniently ignoring about a thousand years of history there, little buddy.
nothing makes Hezbollah seem reasonable quite like hezbarrah does.
Bot account?
Talking about the “initial fault” in this conflict is moot. We’re at a point, where both sides can reasonably point to some events in the past and blame the other side for the conflict.
Fact is, Iran is a theocratic dictatorship and its allies are religious fanatic militias, while Israel is a liberal democracy, supported by pretty much all of The West™. Of course the expectations towards Israel regarding human rights and international law are slightly higher. And let’s be honest, what Israel is doing right now is certainly not helping calming the situation, or even making long term peace.
while Israel is a liberal democracy, supported by pretty much all of The West™.
Man Israel has more than 5 million people under an occupation that denies them any and all human rights. They’re not a liberal democracy in any stretch of the word.
Israel is an authoritarian state, they throw people in jail for disagreeing with the government, or just being Palestinian / Muslim.
authoritarian, apartheid, theocratic, genocidal and willing to start world war three over looking bad
Iran is authoritarian and theocratic, and the people there don’t love that.
I feel like one of these things is worse than the other. indefensibly, past the fucking moral event horizon, ‘kill them all and then shoot the bodies to make sure they’re dead’ levels of worse.
world war three isn’t, like, acceptable. theres no defense for that sjit, especially with some of the military hardware they now have.
lol “liberal democracy”. they’re as homophobic and more transphobic. they’re howling fascists that make the Nazis look like noobs (learning from history I guess. in a the worst ways). they don’t have virtue.
but iranisnt trying to start world war three, and they aren’t trying to do a genocide, so theyre the sensible allies here.
unless you want a global thermonuclear war. then by all means; back the Zionist terror forces.
I don’t know if I fully buy that argument.
If somebody supports Israel, they are supporting a genocide based on perceived land needs of the Israeli people.
If somebody supports Palestine, they are supporting a genocide based on the outright extermination of the Jewish people, funded by Iran and Qatar.
I don’t think we can get anywhere unless all of us as leftists acknowledge that the Jews of Israel will be in the same position the people of Palestine are in right now if we don’t thread the needle of support and guess what? We are not fucking threading that needle.
If somebody supports Palestine, they are supporting a genocide based on the outright extermination of the Jewish people, funded by Iran and Qatar.
What? No significant player in Palestine is trying to do that.
equivocating ‘the Jewish peolle’ with kapo genocide orcs doing 'protocols of the elders of zionc larp is antisemitic as fuck. what do you expect from a bunch of literal Hitler apologists though?
If we pretend the “elected” government of Palestine is in significant than sure.
uh, not the Jewish people. I support Palestine, and I’m not down for killing the guy who runs the donuy shop, or the guy at the deli, or even two of my ex girlfriends.
equivocating ‘the Jewish people’ with ‘israel’ is blatantly antisemitic and potentially genocidal. stop.
I don’t believe you truly didn’t understand what I said. I think you just wanted to tell the person concerned about antisemitism that he is the true antisemite.
You will be blocked if you try that on me again. So please either try good faith dialog in your next response or don’t bother responding.
literally yes. they didn’t give a shit before the 'all Jews are aligned with israelc protocols of the elders of Zion fanfic those fuckers are pushing.
and then making their entire existence genocide and atrocities.
if the kapostanis stopped saying every Jew is aligned with them, or people stopped listening to them, I’m sure there would be a lot less antisemitism.
the problem is the Zionist genocide orcs. its always the Zionist genocide orcs scrawling 'protocols of the elders og zionc fan art on our maps, then defending themselves from the things they’re doing from the boom they’re using as a checklist by saying we’re just accusing them because its in an old dumb czarist book. which they’re using as a checklist.
Woah there buddy, I think you mistook me as somebody interested in unintelligible rants.
This is why metadata matters so much. Plenty of “end-to-end encrypted” apps only handle the content of messages, but know on the server side what people are in what places. Or even keep a historical record of who joined and left. Or just don’t bother encrypting…
There is functionally no way to hide this kind of information from a state actor short of some onion routing scheme mesh networking.
Signal does a decent job just out of the box.
I’m surprised Israel is that discerning.
From what I can tell, they’re killing people based on those people being inside the borders of Gaza.
I don’t think those 13,000+ children were all using Whatsapp. The ones that couldn’t read or write probably didn’t find it especially useful.
I just assumed Israel was killing people based on those people’s proximity to exploding israeli ordnance
no, no, they use ai to optimize for kill count.
well yes but you could create accounts for them after they died, and use a dead Hezbollah guys phone to invite them to whatsapp group. or just any phone. whichever.
you know, to be sure they were enemy combatants.
The only time they recognise those borders is when the command the war crimes units to enter.
I think they recognize them every time they want to stop a Palestinian from leaving.
Signal is the way
Then they could just go off phone numbers.
Signal just introduced a new feature to obscure phone numbers behind usernames
That’s a lot of speculation. I’d like to learn the truth.
The +972 article clearly mentioned Lavender using “being in WhatsApp groups” as a variable to designate targets.
Zuckerberg donating 125K to Zaka (the 40 beheaded babies propaganda group) and his other top Meta staff being massive Zionists living in israel is a rather direct link.
Hmm. I mean it’s an article citing another article, citing a book published under a pen name which seems to include a guide which says using WhatsApp groups could be an example of an information source…
Sounds more like Chinese whispers to me than journalism. I’m a bit cautious since everyone has strong opinions and lots of people spread misinformation… The donation certainly is an interesting fact. I’m not saying it’s necessarily false. But also not enough to convince me.
Yeah and israel just coincidentally bombs 200 aid worker and keeps bombing family homes.
The +972 article perfectly explains what is going on in Gaza right now. Also they are a pretty reliable source for left Israeli news if it’s not Zionist propaganda writers publishing.
Lastly the IDF did not deny they are doing this when they were asked about it.
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fuck Zionist propaganda groups are beheading babies now? that just seems like more work than the shock value is really worth, you know?
What speculation?
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